Parleyvale - Revision history

24.34.117.92 at 16:59, 27 July 2010

2010-07-27T16:59:57Z

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	#get it done		#get it done

			===purposes===
	<poem>		<poem>
	Appertenant to the unit		Appertenant to the unit
	~~bylaws~~ we agree to		Bylaws we agree to
	purposes and declarations		purposes and declarations
	with powers and duties		with powers and duties.
	~~see~~ Exhibit A if you want		See Exhibit A if you want to know
	to know. But for me I am comforted		But for me I am comforted
	in the words and the clarity		in the words and the clarity
	a pause from my own wordless unclear aimlessness		a pause from my own wordless unclear aimlessness
	</poem>		</poem>

24.34.117.92 at 16:57, 27 July 2010

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	#We'll review the modification, mark-up the plans if needed (or have it done), get them in the reproducible form you want and then schedule a meeting.		#We'll review the modification, mark-up the plans if needed (or have it done), get them in the reproducible form you want and then schedule a meeting.
	#get it done		#get it done

			<poem>
			Appertenant to the unit
			bylaws we agree to
			purposes and declarations
			with powers and duties
			see Exhibit A if you want
			to know. But for me I am comforted
			in the words and the clarity
			a pause from my own wordless unclear aimlessness
			</poem>

12.197.0.9 at 17:53, 21 July 2010

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	DB Q 7 8 2 8 PG 0 8 2 6		<sup>Superscript text</sup>DB Q 7 8 2 8 PG 0 8 2 6
	(c) Attics		(c) Attics
	(meaning any space between the roof of a building and the		(meaning any space between the roof of a building and the

98.217.194.133: /* email to */

2010-07-21T14:20:47Z

email to

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	In looking over other condo documents I have found that some manage to accomplish a great deal in this regard through the use of "Limited Common Elements". The limited common elements are clearly		In looking over other condo documents I have found that some manage to accomplish a great deal in this regard through the use of "Limited Common Elements". The limited common elements are clearly
	defined and then the responsibilities are assigned to the individual owners using language like:		defined and then the responsibilities are assigned to the individual owners using language like:

	<blockquote style="border: 0px solid blue; padding: 2em;">		<blockquote style="border: 0px solid blue; padding: 2em;">

	Limited Common Elements. Each Co-Owner shall be individually responsible for the routine cleaning, maintenance, repair, and replacement of all Limited Common Elements appurtenant to the Co- Owner’s unit		Limited Common Elements. Each Co-Owner shall be individually responsible for the routine cleaning, maintenance, repair, and replacement of all Limited Common Elements appurtenant to the Co- Owner’s unit
	</blockquote>		</blockquote>

			Assuming you willing to work with us in this regard toward modifying the documents I propose the following:

			#John, Sue Peri and I will meet to delineate, as clearly as we can, and agree on the Limited Common Elements.
			#We will send you that language and ask that you incorporate it into the condo documents. It would be in our interest to have as much of that description as possible be in the Master Deed with what remains going into the By-Laws.
			#We'll review the modification, mark-up the plans if needed (or have it done), get them in the reproducible form you want and then schedule a meeting.
			#get it done

98.217.194.133: /* email to */

2010-07-21T14:08:30Z

email to

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	In looking over other condo documents I have found that some manage to accomplish a great deal in this regard through the use of "Limited Common Elements". The limited common elements are clearly		In looking over other condo documents I have found that some manage to accomplish a great deal in this regard through the use of "Limited Common Elements". The limited common elements are clearly
	defined and then the responsibilities are assigned to the individual owners using language like:		defined and then the responsibilities are assigned to the individual owners using language like:
			<blockquote style="border: 0px solid blue; padding: 2em;">

	:Limited Common Elements. Each Co-Owner shall be individually		Limited Common Elements. Each Co-Owner shall be individually responsible for the routine cleaning, maintenance, repair, and replacement of all Limited Common Elements appurtenant to the Co- Owner’s unit
	responsible for the routine cleaning, maintenance, repair, and		</blockquote>
	replacement of all Limited Common Elements appurtenant to the Co-
	Owner’s unit

98.217.194.133 at 14:07, 21 July 2010

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	We would like to explore modifications to the proposed condo documents.		We would like to explore modifications to the proposed condo documents.

	In designing this 2 family we made the decision that we would lose too much of what we valued in the site in complying with the fee simple definition (mainly the requirement that each house ~~with~~ 50' frontage facing the road). Though we were now in a condo definition, our property has very few condo elements.		In designing this 2 family we made the decision that we would lose too much of what we valued in the site in complying with the fee simple definition (mainly the requirement that each house have 50' frontage facing the road). Though we were now in a condo definition, our property has very few condo elements.

	Our building envelopes are completely separate, 8' apart connected only by an one story common hallway. The foundation and structure are independent. A 1" water pipe and a 4" waste pipe are the extent of our shared utilities.		Our building envelopes are completely separate, 8' apart connected only by an one story common hallway. The foundation and structure are independent. A 1" water pipe and a 4" waste pipe are the extent of our shared utilities.
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	John, Sue, Peri and I agree that we want as much freedom and responsibility for our own houses and their immediate surroundings as possible. The language of these (seemingly standard) condo documents are too constraining and we need to explore modifications.		John, Sue, Peri and I agree that we want as much freedom and responsibility for our own houses and their immediate surroundings as possible. The language of these (seemingly standard) condo documents are too constraining and we need to explore modifications.

	In looking over other condo documents ~~there~~		In looking over other condo documents I have found that some manage to accomplish a great deal in this regard through the use of "Limited Common Elements". The limited common elements are clearly
			defined and then the responsibilities are assigned to the individual owners using language like:

			:Limited Common Elements. Each Co-Owner shall be individually
			responsible for the routine cleaning, maintenance, repair, and
			replacement of all Limited Common Elements appurtenant to the Co-
			Owner’s unit

98.217.194.133 at 14:01, 21 July 2010

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	replacement of all Limited Common Elements appurtenant to the Co-		replacement of all Limited Common Elements appurtenant to the Co-
	Owner’s unit, except for the following: none.		Owner’s unit, except for the following: none.

			===email to===
			We would like to explore modifications to the proposed condo documents.

			In designing this 2 family we made the decision that we would lose too much of what we valued in the site in complying with the fee simple definition (mainly the requirement that each house with 50' frontage facing the road). Though we were now in a condo definition, our property has very few condo elements.

			Our building envelopes are completely separate, 8' apart connected only by an one story common hallway. The foundation and structure are independent. A 1" water pipe and a 4" waste pipe are the extent of our shared utilities.

			John, Sue, Peri and I agree that we want as much freedom and responsibility for our own houses and their immediate surroundings as possible. The language of these (seemingly standard) condo documents are too constraining and we need to explore modifications.

			In looking over other condo documents there

Tim at 22:28, 7 June 2010

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			DB Q 7 8 2 8 PG 0 8 2 6
			(c) Attics
			(meaning any space between the roof of a building and the
			ceiJing of a Unit).. craw spaces,. basement (If any. and if not included
			in a Unit as shown on the finaJ "as build" plans referred to in Section
			2.21 balconies. stoops, patios and decks, if any. now (or hereafter if
			approved by the Board) attached to a particular Unit and whether 01"
			not shown on the "as built" plans;
			(d) Utility service f8ci1itiesserving a Urnt or sevend Unit~ including the
			air conditioning and heating equipment of systems;
			(e) Door and window frames for each Unit;-imd
			(t) Back yard &rea$,meaning ODe.
			of the foUowin& as applicable. If the
			rear of a Unit is enclosed by a fence pennitted by Developer or the
			Board pursuant to SectiOD5.4. then the back yard area shall mean that
			enclosed area. If there is DOfence. the back yard area shall be the
			area in the rear of each Unit bounded as follows; (a) By the rear
			exterior of thc Unit. (b) by two imaginary lines extending straight
			back from each side wall of the Unit. and (c) by ODeof the following
			imaginary lines. determined based ODwhich line creates the smallest
			'"back yard area" - either (i) the boundary line of the Land. or (ii) the
			line of any easement, or (iii). or (iv) with respect. to any Unit for
			which a ditrerent limited common element line is shown on the plans
			contemplated by sectioD2.2 and 2.4 C. that line shown on such plans.
			Sectioa 1.4 "Unit" or "Condominiwn Unit" means the enclosed space consisting
			of one or more rooms as measured ftom interior unfinished surf8~ having direct access
			to the Common Elements. The location and ~ent of each Unit are as shown on the
			plans of the Regime Tecorded with this DeclanWon. Notwithstanding that some of the
			following might be loatted in the Common Element or Limited Common Elements, the
			plumbing, heating. and air conditioning equipment (mcluding all ducts and pipes),
			electrical wiring and equipment. bot water heater. telephone lines. cable television fines.
			windows pane5.. doors (mcluding stonn and screen doors, if any). windows. halls,
			sWrways and other equipment located with or connected to a Unit for the sole purpose of
			serving that unit exclusively, are a. part of the Unit; the maintenance, repair and
			replacement ofsame being the responsjbility of the Unit owner.



			Section 1.3 "Limited Common Elements" means those Common Elements
			which are reserved by this Declaration or amendments to this Declaration, by the
			recorded floor p~ or by agreement of aD Owners. for the use of a certain Unit or
			numberofUnils to the exclusionof other Unit~ includingwithout limitation:
			(a) Interior unfinished surtaces of each Unit's perimeter wa11s, ceilings
			and floors and space between floors;
			(b) Entrances and exits to the Unit;


	The Limited Common Elements shall include, but shall not be limited to, entryways, common walls, balconies, patios or deck (sic) front entrance areas or porches, designated as appurtenant to a specified Unit. Each Unit owner shall be responsible for maintaining at their individual cost and expense, all areas designated as Limited Common Elements except, however, structural modifications and structural maintenance of the walls. Further, the Master Deed includes the following term in its "Declaration of Restrictive and Protective Covenants, Agreements and Easement Grants":		The Limited Common Elements shall include, but shall not be limited to, entryways, common walls, balconies, patios or deck (sic) front entrance areas or porches, designated as appurtenant to a specified Unit. Each Unit owner shall be responsible for maintaining at their individual cost and expense, all areas designated as Limited Common Elements except, however, structural modifications and structural maintenance of the walls. Further, the Master Deed includes the following term in its "Declaration of Restrictive and Protective Covenants, Agreements and Easement Grants":

Tim at 22:01, 7 June 2010

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			The Limited Common Elements shall include, but shall not be limited to, entryways, common walls, balconies, patios or deck (sic) front entrance areas or porches, designated as appurtenant to a specified Unit. Each Unit owner shall be responsible for maintaining at their individual cost and expense, all areas designated as Limited Common Elements except, however, structural modifications and structural maintenance of the walls. Further, the Master Deed includes the following term in its "Declaration of Restrictive and Protective Covenants, Agreements and Easement Grants":

			(m) "Limited Common Elements" means a portion of the Common Elements reserved
			in this Master Deed for the exclusive use of less than all of the Co-owners.

	enclosed within the boundaries of the unit.		enclosed within the boundaries of the unit.

Tim at 21:46, 7 June 2010

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			enclosed within the boundaries of the unit.

	(b) The Limited Common Elements are:		(b) The Limited Common Elements are: