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&lt;div&gt;==[[Vietnam itinerary]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
:[https://www.oanda.com/currency-converter/en/?from=VND&amp;amp;to=USD&amp;amp;amount=2629303 currency converter]&lt;br /&gt;
USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
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VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
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==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.cathaypacific.com/mb/#!/en_US/hub/F9SWXD Cathay pacific] flights/manage bookings&lt;br /&gt;
: Mckenna Timothy Scott Green 1914920514 u:857..., Ca...!&lt;br /&gt;
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Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong BOS-&amp;gt;HGK&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 30m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX811&lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City HGK-&amp;gt;SGN&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
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===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong SGN-&amp;gt;HGK&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
  2h 45m&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX766 &lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Boston HGK-&amp;gt;BOS&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
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==refs and tips==&lt;br /&gt;
====multiple services====&lt;br /&gt;
There are issues with online travel sites OTAs around customer service and refunds in case thing go wrong. Better off trying to book direct with the provider when possible. &lt;br /&gt;
* traveloka - Tami: easy booking with them.  &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.klook.com/search/result/?query=vietnam Klook]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.agoda.com Agoda flights and hotel]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.kiwi.com/us/?origin=dong-hoi-vietnam&amp;amp;destination=hanoi-vietnam&amp;amp;outboundDate=2026-03-10&amp;amp;inboundDate=no-return Kiwi]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== domestic air ====&lt;br /&gt;
:Tami: We use Vietjet, or bamboo airline&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.vietjetair.com/en VietJet]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.bambooairways.com/gl/en Bamboo Airways]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.vietnamairlines.com/us/en/ Vietnam Airlines]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== trains/buses/limos/grab ====&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://vietnam-railway.com/train/route/train-from-danang-to-hanoi#:~:text=The%20railway%20from%20Danang%20station,Danang%20to%20Hanoi%20or%20return). Vietnam Railway]&lt;br /&gt;
* grab -app installed&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://12go.tp.st/QWH4f43u?trs=277068&amp;amp;journey_id=BZT4c9v1cXWYg4Eqw83NK&amp;amp;trace_id=Zzdb1b20bfe85740a78829d1d-495575&amp;amp;promo_kind=tp_short&amp;amp;page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthesensiblefay.com%2Fblog%2Fvietnam-itinerary&amp;amp;product_type=tp_manual&amp;amp;install_type=partner 12Go]&lt;br /&gt;
==== accomodations ====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://agoda.tp.st/Fyn8Wh44?trs=277068&amp;amp;journey_id=X7kmt02BBZbPwG2Io490-&amp;amp;trace_id=Zzdb1b20bfe85740a78829d1d-495575&amp;amp;promo_kind=tp_short&amp;amp;page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthesensiblefay.com%2Fblog%2Fvietnam-itinerary&amp;amp;product_type=tp_manual&amp;amp;install_type=partner Agoda - filter travel sustainable or homestays]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== tours ====&lt;br /&gt;
==== blogs ====&lt;br /&gt;
* https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/332906624145754 hello vietnam -facebook]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/ reddit.com/r/VietNam/] [https://www.reddit.com/r/Vietnam_Tourism/  reddit.com/r/Vietnam_Tourism/]&lt;br /&gt;
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== todo ==&lt;br /&gt;
I am TIMOTHY MCKENNA Booking number 26KK202060695. I made a dumb mistake on my application. The flight from HKG to SGN actually arrives a day later 2026-03-04. Everything else is the same. Can I still use that voucher. Could you reissue if I cannot?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Tami:  I usually use fast track service to get through custom more quickly because depend on the day how much flights coming same time at airport especially night time .Wait long line was nightmare:( but still wait for luggage 🧳Let me know what you guys want I can arrange that. Time still far away not worries until early February&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.agoda.com/activities/detail?activityId=1433950&amp;amp;cityId=13170&amp;amp;site_id=1920321&amp;amp;tag=7f4af76c-9b20-4329-82c5-d385849386a4&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=20985639569&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAApWUCBK20VvmNb37TvMvb6hVWSm9N&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiA1JLLBhCDARIsAAVfy7jaey33fdAcmgYsPABJIBOBhwcXt4IiEvapW9KqtVTrtQQXEc2WTa4aAuTREALw_wcB&amp;amp;cid=1920321&amp;amp;enrichedOfferId=2140953&amp;amp;pax=8_2&amp;amp;offerOptionId=0&amp;amp;travelDate=2026-03-03 fast track Agoda $15.23] &amp;amp;check;&lt;br /&gt;
* know what Vietnam banks work with our ATM's EasternBank Rockland Trust are SUM, &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://evisa.gov.vn/ visa requirements] [https://evisa.xuatnhapcanh.gov.vn/trang-chu-ttdt National Portal on Immigration] &amp;amp;check;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://safetywing.com/?referenceID=26014883&amp;amp;utm_source=26014883&amp;amp;utm_medium=Ambassador travel insurance]&lt;br /&gt;
* e-sim [https://vietteltelecom.vn/tin-tuc/chi-tiet/buy-viettel-esim-in-vietnam-price-how-to-buy/10616196 how to buy at airport] Viettel: International Terminal: Arrival Hall, after baggage claim and customs exit. Official Viettel kiosks always display the signature red and white Viettel logo, often alongside phrases such as “Tourist SIM,” “Viettel eSIM”. The entire process usually takes less than 10 minutes, ensuring you can go online right away. SD135T	30 days	VND 135,000	5GB per day&lt;br /&gt;
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https://vietnamnomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Map-of-railway-stations-in-Vietnam-new.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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=senior travel tips=&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Weather and Climate:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnam’s weather varies a lot depending on the region and month. &lt;br /&gt;
December to March, &lt;br /&gt;
North   (Hanoi, Ha Long Bay, Ninh Binh) can be cool 53-64°F so pack a light jacket. &lt;br /&gt;
Central (Da Nang, Hoi An, Hue) is mild and pleasant&lt;br /&gt;
South   (Ho Chi Minh City, Mekong Delta) stays warm and humid-avoid midday outdoor activities           to prevent exhaustion or dehydration&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Accommodation:&lt;br /&gt;
Choose accommodations with elevators, air conditioning. &lt;br /&gt;
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3. Transportation:&lt;br /&gt;
Use private car services or ride apps like Grab, where you can travel comfortably with air conditioning. For longer distances, domestic flights or trains with sleeper cabins are great options just book early for convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
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4. Sightseeing:&lt;br /&gt;
Stick to accessible attractions with minimal walking or steps. Many famous spots like the War Remnants Museum, Ben Thanh Market (HCMC), Hoi An Ancient Town, and Hanoi’s Old Quarter can be enjoyed at a relaxed pace. &lt;br /&gt;
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5. Health and Safety:&lt;br /&gt;
Make sure to stay hydrated, use sunscreen and a hat, and takes short breaks during the day. It’s a good idea to bring any prescription medications and a doctor’s note, and to check if travel insurance covers medical emergencies abroad. Hospitals in major cities like Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City have international clinics with English-speaking staff.&lt;br /&gt;
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6. Food and Hydration:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnamese food is delicious but can sometimes be oily or spicy. Choose restaurants with good hygiene or those catering to tourists. Always drink bottled or filtered water.&lt;br /&gt;
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7. Rest and Schedule:&lt;br /&gt;
Plan shorter days with breaks in cafés or shaded areas. Many older travelers enjoy Vietnam’s slower, relaxed rhythm watching daily life from a riverside café is often just as memorable as sightseeing.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://tonkin-travel.com/vietnam-tour-for-seniors/ itinerary for seniors]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 1. Da Nang / Hoi An =&lt;br /&gt;
=====Wed3/4 - Mon3/9 [https://www.google.com/maps/@15.9747255,108.2502142,12z?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D region map]=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== air:(70-82°F), water(77°F), dry=====&lt;br /&gt;
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We start the trip by flying right into Danang sometime after our flight arrives in SGN at 10:35AM. They say it takes 3-4 hours to clear customs and get to the domestic terminal. We are on a Vietnam Air VN134 3:15 flight so it could be tight. Getting an e-visa and FastTrack That might help. When we arrive in Da Nang we look for out Limo `Peri and Tim` to Hoi An'.&lt;br /&gt;
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The attraction is a few days on the beach,   [https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species snorkeling] and possibly body [https://thesurfatlas.com/vietnam-surf/surfing-in-danang/ surfing].&lt;br /&gt;
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The limo takes us to Hoi An, An Bang Beach, The Watermark Beachside Hotel Wed 3/4 - Fri 3/6 for 2 nights. From there we could maybe bicycle 5.2km(3.1mi) into town for an evening or take a [https://www.klook.com/activity/9185-tra-que-village-cooking-class-hoi-an/ Farm Cooking Class]. Or catch a show in Hoi An [https://www.facebook.com/reel/1282399736968768 Memories show]. there is a museum [https://blisshoian.com/news/tan-ky-oid-house/ Tan Ky ancestral house]&lt;br /&gt;
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Early on Friday morning we head to Cham Island and Tuan Thanh Homestay. Our plan is to spend a day on the island. Then, the next morning we will go out on the dock and try to get on the [https://tigerfishdivers.com/ Tigerfish] tour to snorkel for a day. Hopefully they will give us a ride back to Hoi An when the day is done. &lt;br /&gt;
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When we return from the island that afternoon/evening we could visit oldtown heading back to Da Nang sometime on Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
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We will arrive in Da Nang and stay at Sala Danang Beach Hotel Sat 3/7 - Mon 3/9 for another day at the beach, surfing or snorkeling. &lt;br /&gt;
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On Mon 3/9 we get on a train TN4 to Dong Hoi, getting to the station by 6:30AM. &lt;br /&gt;
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===[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Da Nang Snorkeling]===&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
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Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. [https://tigerfishdivers.com/ Tigerfish] are recommended snorkel tour operators.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
=====warm, sunny weather, clear skies, calm seas,(81-86°F)(water77-88°F)=====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cham+Islands/@15.9561378,108.4954196,14.75z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x31426da8c0c58939:0x9ba2c3cff0f65060!8m2!3d15.9415516!4d108.4810261!16s%2Fm%2F05zx4dc?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map]&lt;br /&gt;
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You should [https://hoabinhtourist.com/en/blog/hoi-an-to-cham-island-ferry#:~:text=For%20a%20budget-friendly%20route%2C%20take%20the%20wooden,and%20round-trip%20tickets%20cost%20350%2C000%E2%80%93400%2C000%20VND%20(~$15%E2%80%9317). go there] and [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-coral-homestay-amp-pub.html?label=mkt123sc-d1b0b225-78d9-4246-82be-a3952e943b35&amp;amp;aid=355028&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-06&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-07&amp;amp;dest_id=248247&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;srpvid=4fca247295af0409&amp;amp;srepoch=1768021887&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1215748202_421959470_0_0_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title stay one night], rent a scooter and visit the beaches, visit Ray Ong Bang. Then the next morning do a snorkeling tour with [https://tigerfishdivers.com Tigerfish] and catch a ride with them back to Hoi An. They pick up and drop off customers in Hoi An and take them over to Cham on a catamaran so you get a nice boat ride. They have to make a stop on Cham (to check in with the local authorities and they have to check out later, too) before taking everyone to the snorkel/diving sites. So if you are already on Cham, you avoid the early wake up in Hoi An. They'll pick you up around 9:15am on Cham. They finish with lunch on Chong beach so you can skip visiting that beach by yourself as you'll get that with them [https://www.facebook.com/groups/152330905406162/posts/1715095659129671/ facebook post -Josephine Cong]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND ($20-28)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other Things to do in Hoi An===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Local Food====&lt;br /&gt;
* Cao Lau- chewy, yellowish noodles made with lye water and ash from a specific well,  with pork, herbs, bean sprouts, and crispy croutons, and a small amount of rich, savory broth&lt;br /&gt;
* White Rose Dumplings - rice paper wrappers shaped like roses, with minced shrimp and pork, steamed and topped with crispy fried shallots, served with a savory-sweet dipping sauce.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Classes====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.pelago.com/en-SG/activity/pl5vxotc7-bamboo-craft-workshop-with-souvenir-in-hoi-an-hoi-an/ Bamboo crafts]11 min by car from AnBang Beach&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-making-lantern-with-local-people-in-hoi-an-oldtown-t461469/?ranking_uuid=3cee3d96-5b52-44a5-9ca3-71810db35c99 lanterns][https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-foldable-lantern-making-class-with-local-family-t739461/ foldaable lanterns]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-wood-carving-class-with-village-master-artisan-t586826/?ranking_uuid=3cee3d96-5b52-44a5-9ca3-71810db35c99 wood carving]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.klook.com/activity/9185-tra-que-village-cooking-class-hoi-an/ cooking class]&lt;br /&gt;
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====tours====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-biking-river-islands-village-crafts-private-tour-t517962/ Mat weaving, paper making bike tour]&lt;br /&gt;
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====museums/shows====&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://blisshoian.com/news/tan-ky-oid-house/ Tan Ky ancestral house]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.facebook.com/reel/1282399736968768 Memories performance]&lt;br /&gt;
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=2. Quong Binh - Phong Nha=&lt;br /&gt;
=====highs(80-84°F) lows(67-68°F), moderate sunshine, lower humidity, and minimal rain=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== Mon 3/9 - Tue 3/10=====&lt;br /&gt;
==== capitol: Đồng Hới arriving 13:30 TN4 ====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng+B%C3%ACnh,+Vietnam/@18.974051,104.108037,7z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x3138b0f638296f2d:0x901f872e6223598f!8m2!3d17.4627582!4d106.2522143!16zL20vMDdsX3h2?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D Province] in in central Vietnam, 4 1/hrs limo/bus, 6 1/2hr train, 270 Km (162 mi) from Da Nang.  The city is a base for accessing the Phong Nha-Kẻ Bàng National Park, featuring mountainous jungle and many limestone caves including the massive Sơn Đoòng Cave.&lt;br /&gt;
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by Train:&lt;br /&gt;
* Hai Van Pass (Da Nang to Hue): This is the undisputed highlight, considered one of the world's most scenic rail routes. You'll see mountains plunging into the sea, secluded beaches, and tunnels, with the train seeming to hang between ocean and sky.&lt;br /&gt;
* Right Side for Sea Views: As the train travels north from Da Nang, the ocean and coastline will be on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
* Check Train Layouts: Some sources suggest seats in the first or fourth carriages, or seats facing forward, but it can vary.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/ Phuong Nha An An Homestay Mon 3/9 - Tue 3/10]====&lt;br /&gt;
At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
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They are happy to provide pick up transfer from Dong hoi train station to our homestay with best rate 450.000vnd`&lt;br /&gt;
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===Phong Nha===&lt;br /&gt;
In Quong Binh province, on Con river northwest of Dong Hoi, between Da Nang and Hanoi, 312 km (187 mi) from da Nang. Famous for caves. Tami recommended Son Doong cave. May be too expensive and too much geared to fit and rugged 'adventurers': [https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/complete-guide-phong-nha travel guide] [https://bea-adventurous.com/phong-nha-2/#Best_Things_To_Do_In_Phong_Nha_The_Expanded_Version Best thing to do Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
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What to Expect:&lt;br /&gt;
* Nature Immersion: Lush greenery, rivers, streams, and jungle sounds.&lt;br /&gt;
* Local Cuisine: Fresh, locally sourced ingredients, often from the farm itself.&lt;br /&gt;
* Activities: Exploring caves (Phong Nha, Paradise Cave), ziplining, relaxing, and participating in farm life.&lt;br /&gt;
* Eco-Focus: Many places emphasize sustainability and environmental education. &lt;br /&gt;
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We leave to get on the Overnight Lotus Express train - Dong Hoi -&amp;gt; Ninh Binh Tue 3/10 11:45PM. Travel to station to be arranged.&lt;br /&gt;
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=3. Ninh Binh=&lt;br /&gt;
===== Wed 3/11 - Fri 3/13=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== (64°F to 77°F), occasional light rain=====&lt;br /&gt;
Arriving in Ninh Binh from Dong Hoi @ 9:15Am on the SE20. We will get picked up.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Tam Coc====&lt;br /&gt;
Two nights at Nan House - Tam Coc [https://secure.booking.com/inbox/partner-chat?vertical=accommodation&amp;amp;external_id=5919459883&amp;amp;bn=5919459883&amp;amp;product=post_booking&amp;amp;source=email&amp;amp;channel=partner_chat&amp;amp;opened_from_source=wakeup_email bookings.com]&lt;br /&gt;
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We will be arriving by train to Nimh Binh at 8:51 on Mar 11 on the SE20. Whats App +84 912 004 405 Nan House Tam Coc Ha Nguyen, pickup at train station arranged Train SE20 150K. Asked if they could arrange departure transport to Pu Luong once we are there. They have laundry services.&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/images/2/2e/NinhBinhAttractionns.png&lt;br /&gt;
===[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/things-to-do-in-ninh-binh/ Nimh Binh Attractions]===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Trang An Boat Tour (300k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
* you don't book ahead of time. You just go into the ticket office, choose which route you want to go, pay, and they give you the ticket right there and then. Simple as that.&lt;br /&gt;
* more immersive than Tam Coc experience with clearer water, towering limestone mountains, and diverse caves. * Boats usually wait for four tourists before departing.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tours last about 2.5 to 3 hours and include stops where you can disembark to visit ancient temples and pagodas. &lt;br /&gt;
* There are three different routes; Route 3 (which includes the over 1km long Dot Cave) is a popular choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/bich-dong-pagoda/ Bich Dong Pagoda] ====&lt;br /&gt;
The pagoda is just a pleasant 3.2km ~2mi bicycle ride form Naan House Tam Coc through rice fields and villages. Early morning (7:30) is the time to visit to avoid crowds.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/bai-dinh-pagoda/ Bai Dinh Pagoda Complex] ====&lt;br /&gt;
(30k to 120k VND depending on the tram package you take)&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.discoverninhbinh.com/thung-nham-bird-garden/ Thung Nham Birds/Gardens]====&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Nan+House+Tam+coc,+Tam+C%E1%BB%91c,+Ninh+H%E1%BA%A3i,+Ninh+B%C3%ACnh,+Vietnam/Thung+Nham+Flower+Paradise,+Khu+du+l%E1%BB%8Bch+sinh+th%C3%A1i+Thung+Nham,+Th%C3%B4n+h%E1%BA%A3i+Nham,+Hoa+L%C6%B0,+Ninh+B%C3%ACnh+430000,+Vietnam/@20.2159051,105.9040457,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x31367bb91da95bd9:0x405a6b16d8ae5956!2m2!1d105.9398133!2d20.2085488!1m5!1m1!1s0x31367b0014a46ce3:0xb55592151cb7397b!2m2!1d105.888811!2d20.2231556!3e0!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDExMy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map from naan house] 8.2km ~5 mi&lt;br /&gt;
* best from 4- 6 pm&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hoa Lu Old Town Night Market====&lt;br /&gt;
not sure if it is worth it&lt;br /&gt;
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====Động Am Tiên (25k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hoa Lu Ancient Capital (20k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
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===Activities Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
* Wed 3/11, afternoon: We should be in Tam Coc before 11:00AM, time for an afternoon activity, perhaps Trang An Boat tour with some temple stops off the boat. Back to Naan house by 3:45 4-6 best time for bird sanctuary&lt;br /&gt;
* Thu 3/12 7:00: Bike to Bich Dong for morning. Or Fri AM&lt;br /&gt;
* Thu 3/12 afternoon/evening TBD&lt;br /&gt;
* Fri 3/13 We will take a Limo from Tan Coc to Pu Luong, TBA, messaged Nan House about arranging limo.&lt;br /&gt;
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=4. Pu Luong=&lt;br /&gt;
https://izitour.com/media/ckeditor/pu-luong-location.webp&lt;br /&gt;
==== Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15====&lt;br /&gt;
=====lows:17°C(63°F) highs:24-30°C (75-86°F) some humidity and maybe light showers.=====&lt;br /&gt;
It is about 144km 86mi from Hanoi. Going to Pu Luong right from Nimh Binh. It is only 106mi. (170km). Will ask nan House first, then Inh La Home.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at Inh La Home Pu Luong Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/ninh-binh-to-pu-luong/ Other Transport Co.s]====&lt;br /&gt;
* Pu Luong Express: Daily departure at either 7.30 am or 1.30 pm from Ninh Binh, $20 each way per person&lt;br /&gt;
* The Long Travel: Daily depart at 7:30 am and arrive to Pu Luong at around 11:00 am, minivans seat (16 passengers); $20 each way per person&lt;br /&gt;
* Download offline maps on your phone, you are in the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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===In Pu Luong===&lt;br /&gt;
Arriving by Limo TBA, sometime Fri 3/13.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at Inh La Home Pu Luong Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15. Excited to go to Don village Maket on Sunday from 5:00 - 8:00&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Doan+Market/@20.4469685,105.1795457,15z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x313402f23e86f21d:0xf9b6d702618ce85!8m2!3d20.4470998!4d105.1827192!16s%2Fg%2F11b6lm_m9q!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDExMy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D topo map]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=119t9uAwlBqOgRyuRBXGTzjlhcu4SPCA&amp;amp;femb=1&amp;amp;ll=20.470469600000012%2C105.22223180000003&amp;amp;z=13 map]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Easy walks====&lt;br /&gt;
* There are numerous small, flat roads  and pathways in Don village suitable for short, leisurely walks. You can wander through picturesque landscapes and past bamboo forests at a gentle pace, enjoying the quiet rhythm of local life.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pho Doan to Hieu Village (Partial Route): The section from Pho Doan market has been noted as a suitable easy, flat route for seniors. While the full 6 km route takes about 2 hours, walkers can cover shorter segments tailored to their comfort levels.&lt;br /&gt;
* Bang Village to Kho Muong Village (Partial Route): This route offers gentle trails and views of rice fields and mountains. You can explore parts of the trail to enjoy the scenery and visit the Kho Muong Cave (Bat Cave) area, though the full route is longer.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ban Cong to Bamboo Raft Area: A leisurely 2.5 km walk from Ban Cong leads to the largest stream, where you can see giant water wheels. The paths here are relatively easy and offer beautiful views along the river, with an optional bamboo rafting experience. Walks] &lt;br /&gt;
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=====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/pu-luong-nature-reserve/ Pu Luong Nature Reserve]=====&lt;br /&gt;
* Trek through terraced rice fields and bamboo forests&lt;br /&gt;
* Stay in a traditional stilt house in a Thai ethnic village&lt;br /&gt;
* Visit the impressive water wheels along the streams&lt;br /&gt;
* Join a cooking class to learn about local cuisine&lt;br /&gt;
* Take a dip in the cool mountain streams&lt;br /&gt;
* Enjoy sunrise or sunset views over the valley&lt;br /&gt;
* Pho Doan Mkt Thurs and Sun arrive before 8a&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.colorfuljourneys.com/articles/where-to-stay-in-pu-luong Guide to Pu Luong’s Villages]&lt;br /&gt;
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*  [https://12go.asia/en/travel/hanoi/pu-luong?sub_id=586f06d79d1b4710a8b12e02a-369753&amp;amp;utm_source=travelpayouts&amp;amp;vehclasses_tab=van Book a van to Hanoi here]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 5. Hanoi - Lan Ha Bay=&lt;br /&gt;
==== Sun 3/15 - Wed 3/18 ====&lt;br /&gt;
===== Hanoi:lows: 62°F-68°F,highs:72°F-78°F, humid, occasional showers.=====&lt;br /&gt;
From Pu Luong, we will take a limo to Hanoi. Arriving sometime Sunday. There we will likely take our first tour, to La Ha Bay. Sunday evening through Monday, explore Hanoi. Tuesday, 5:-00 pickup to tour Lan Ha Bay. Wednesday, Checkout to airport and David, Tami and Liam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at [https://secure.booking.com/confirmation.en-us.html?label=mkt123sc-56a0b79f-f1c7-485e-bef5-cf9c86c7a787&amp;amp;sid=e58453c7525d7f280addd1aebc7d5c5c&amp;amp;aid=355028&amp;amp;auth_key=cigyAb4FBcAXXthw&amp;amp;source=mytrips Bella Rosa Trendy Hotel &amp;amp; Spa] Sun 3/15 - Wed 3/18&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551994105220&amp;amp;sk=reels_tab Tara Travel Co] might be good for suggesting activities.&lt;br /&gt;
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== 5a. Lan Ha Bay==&lt;br /&gt;
===== highs:(70-77°F), 8-9 hours of sunshine. (water:70-72°F) =====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lan+Ha+Bay/@20.8012072,106.9938087,12z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x314a5ac42efd423d:0xcabdcf2fe3423885!8m2!3d20.7582934!4d107.0893798!16s%2Fg%2F11gzd8tr9?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map of Lab Ha Bay]&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing is finalized, but booked  [https://www.getyourguide.com/booking/26B6GG2JSTESCW3Z1MCCED609MQXWVZI?partner_id=CD951&amp;amp;visitor_id=98CD991FD8A54490B94477A3D04AAD07&amp;amp;utm_source=getyourguide&amp;amp;utm_medium=email_transactional&amp;amp;utm_campaign=shopping_cart_confirmation_v2&amp;amp;utm_content=booking_summary_manage_booking_move_v3 Get Your Guide (app)] not paid yet Beka Travel Maya on whatsapp. Will automatically process on 3/14 unless cancelled. Other options for day tours are:[https://www.getyourguide.com/-l90401?cmp=ga&amp;amp;campaign_id=6657595134&amp;amp;adgroup_id=186717800769&amp;amp;target_id=kwd-310572425171&amp;amp;loc_physical_ms=9001992&amp;amp;match_type=e&amp;amp;ad_id=770039971193&amp;amp;keyword=lan+ha+bay+tours&amp;amp;ad_position=&amp;amp;feed_item_id=&amp;amp;placement=&amp;amp;device=c&amp;amp;assetgroup_id=&amp;amp;synthetic_keyword=lan+ha+bay+tours&amp;amp;partner_id=CD951&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=6657595134&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAjojLBhAlEiwAcjhrDj_FOqcFVYMaxdHT4MezVbDxX6mC4Ard22dsuk9tK94sE18D9KAnTRoCywQQAvD_BwE&amp;amp;activityType=dayTrip&amp;amp;interestFilters=tc-48 Lan Ha Bay Day Tours]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sapa ?==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jacob'S+House+Hmong+Homestay/@22.3062377,103.9089166,14z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x36cd41a70fb9ea15:0x657fb4bd65bc7e0d!8m2!3d22.3062377!4d103.9089166!16s%2Fg%2F11ms3bmtnl?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D Homeastays]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://sites.google.com/view/myshomestaysapa/gallery?authuser=0 My's Homestay]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 6. Visit Tami, David and Liam in the South =&lt;br /&gt;
Whenever they want to see us 3/18? 3/19? til we leave from SGN Sun 3/22 11:35Am. Wherever they want to go or have us meet them. Fly from Hanoi to ?&lt;br /&gt;
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==David and Tami==&lt;br /&gt;
1/16/26&lt;br /&gt;
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After fixing mistakes like booking a plane from SGN to Da Nang a day before we are to arrive in SGN ! and things like that... we are basically booked for major transportation and accommodations. Here's the  [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam main narrative] and a [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam_itinerary#Itinerary more detailed itinerary]&lt;br /&gt;
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1/12/26&lt;br /&gt;
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Our holiday was great, we started celebrating on the 12/15 third day of Chanukah and continued through Ari and Louisa's week visit that ended last Wednesday. Lots of time with Logan, Asher, Soleil, Louisa and Sulise playing together. &lt;br /&gt;
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Back to planning for Vietnam. Peri is overdosed watching young people drinking egg coffee in Youtube videos, but has done some good research about places in Quong Binh. Starting to see searches at Bookings.com with 'no rooms available` and `one room left` for hotels in Hanoi. I feel like it is getting to be time to nail down our itinerary.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is a summary of what we are currently thinking. A more descriptive version is on the [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam wiki].&lt;br /&gt;
* After arriving at SGN at 10:35Am on 3/3, we do our best to get on a 3:15 flight to Da Nang. Maybe e-visa or FastTrack will help?&lt;br /&gt;
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Hoi An/ Da Nang&lt;br /&gt;
* We either set up a base of our `chill at the beach` phase near  My Khe beach in the city or An Bang beach in Hoi An. My Khe might have better body surfing but either could be flat. &lt;br /&gt;
* Then we play it by ear, or play it by waves, at the beach if waves, otherwise snorkel around Son Tra Peninsula. Or take an overnight trip to Cham Island and hop a ride on a snorkeling boat there. Maybe a cooking class and likely an evening in oldtown Hoi An.&lt;br /&gt;
* Get to the Da Nang train station for a morning train&lt;br /&gt;
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Quong Binh&lt;br /&gt;
* Enjoy the train ride through Hai Van Pass and 6 1/2 hrs later end up in Dong Hoi&lt;br /&gt;
* Farm stays, caves, hiking, a limo ride away to Phong Ha and environs for a couple? of days&lt;br /&gt;
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To the North&lt;br /&gt;
* We could figure a way to have the next stop be Ninh Binh, but it may be better just to fly to Hanoi from Dong Hoi on the one daily flight at 10:25AM.&lt;br /&gt;
* Then we may be based in Hanoi until we fly down to wherever we are going to meet you.&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe a limo bus to Bich Dong, Ninh Binh, get a place to stay for a night or two.&lt;br /&gt;
* An overnight tour to Lan Ha Bay (instead of Ha Long Bay) Cat Ba Island?&lt;br /&gt;
* Another tour or maybe just a bus to Sapa for a night&lt;br /&gt;
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12/12/25&lt;br /&gt;
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So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello to both of you, &lt;br /&gt;
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To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
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5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
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But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
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To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
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Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
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Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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nice baby&lt;br /&gt;
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Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
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We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
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Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/vietnam/traveler/packing-list Health and Safety Packing List]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://vietnam.travel/place-to-go places to go]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/hai-long-homestay.html?aid=356980&amp;amp;label=gog235jc-10CAso9AFCEWhhaS1sb25nLWhvbWVzdGF5SDNYA2iYAogBAZgBM7gBB8gBDdgBA-gBAfgBAYgCAagCAbgC38ubywbAAgHSAiQzZTJjMDliNC1kYWM0LTQyNDEtYjA4MC02NDBlNDYzMjc0ZDHYAgHgAgE&amp;amp;sid=9c11db13c80aa6664bc9bfed6a158219&amp;amp;dest_id=-3715584&amp;amp;dest_type=city&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=1&amp;amp;hpos=1&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;srepoch=1768351225&amp;amp;srpvid=ab3004b081970369&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp; homestay in Cham Island ]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/homestay-tuan-thanh.html?label=metagha-link-MRUS-hotel-2409758_dev-desktop_los-1_bw-0_dow-Wednesday_defdate-1_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-public_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260114_ppt-_lp-2840_r-8778237271479827769&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-01-14&amp;amp;checkout=2026-01-15&amp;amp;dest_id=248247&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;srpvid=b0f108139a8f024d&amp;amp;srepoch=1768352979&amp;amp;matching_block_id=240975803_374324062_0_2_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title cham2]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [Vinh Khang Homestay 7/11 Thai Phien, Cam Pho, Hoi An ]&lt;br /&gt;
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Pu Luong and culture:&lt;br /&gt;
Beyond its natural beauty, Pu Luong preserves the rich cultural heritage of the Thai and Muong ethnic groups. Travelers can visit local villages such as Ban Don, Ban Hieu, and Kho Muong, join traditional weaving workshops, enjoy Thai folk dances, savor ethnic cuisine, and stay in rustic homestays nestled in the forest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Health:&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.jointcommission.org/en/about-us/recognizing-excellence/find-accredited-international-organizations?rfkid_7:content_filters=country:eq:Vietnam&amp;amp;rfkid_7:content_page=1&amp;amp;rfkid_7:content_limit=100&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, traditional tourism villages make excellent stops along the way: Bat Trang Ceramic Village with its centuries-old pottery craft. Tan Hoa Village and Bong Lai Valley in Quang Tri offer tranquil scenery. In addition, Tra Que Village in Hoi An is famous for its organic vegetable gardens and hands-on local cooking experiences. These destinations are easily combined into a Pu Luong itinerary, enriching the trip with diverse cultural and nature experiences Where to get medical care]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.cdc.gov/yellow-book/hcp/preparing-international-travelers/travelers-diarrhea.html Traveler's Diarrhea]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-embassy-hanoi.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768520042&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1327426201_405337745_2_1_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title#availability hotel in Old Quarter Hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/viet-hai-village-l199600/ha-noi-2-days-lan-ha-bay-hiking-biking-kayakin-t1056800/?ranking_uuid=20ac8721-cf72-4ded-b44d-87ae07894f1a Lan Ha Bay 2day tour with pickup from Hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/nan-house.html?aid=355028&amp;amp;label=mkt123sc-bee451b0-d3cc-4517-8e19-022dcd10b4e5&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-11&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-13&amp;amp;dest_id=900056405&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=18&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;hpos=18&amp;amp;matching_block_id=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;nflt=hotelfacility%3D14&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396_243120370&amp;amp;srepoch=1768507256&amp;amp;srpvid=5f4c8b78a0a80672&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;#tab-main TamCoc Homestay]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/inh-la-home.html?aid=356929&amp;amp;label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-8943270_dev-desktop_los-2_bw-56_dow-Friday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-public_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260313_ppt-_lp-2840_r-1211404217458449427&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-13&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-15&amp;amp;dest_id=8943270&amp;amp;dest_type=hotel&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=1&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;hpos=1&amp;amp;matching_block_id=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0__240000000&amp;amp;srepoch=1768517994&amp;amp;srpvid=b6e9a1ad54240545&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp; accomodation in ban don near pho doan]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/bridgo-home.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D216&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768519626&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1240430601_0_2_0_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title old town hanoi airbnb type]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-embassy-hanoi.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768520042&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1327426201_405337745_2_1_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title#availability hotel in old quarter hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/hanoi-bella-rosa-trendy.html?aid=356929&amp;amp;label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=247978&amp;amp;dest_type=hotel&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=3&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;hpos=3&amp;amp;matching_block_id=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309_310938796&amp;amp;srepoch=1768521823&amp;amp;srpvid=7ed9a42d205700c7&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;#tab-main hotel &amp;quot;close to lake]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
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		<title>Vietnam</title>
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&lt;div&gt;==[[Vietnam itinerary]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
:[https://www.oanda.com/currency-converter/en/?from=VND&amp;amp;to=USD&amp;amp;amount=2629303 currency converter]&lt;br /&gt;
USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
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VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
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==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.cathaypacific.com/mb/#!/en_US/hub/F9SWXD Cathay pacific] flights/manage bookings&lt;br /&gt;
: Mckenna Timothy Scott Green 1914920514 u:857..., Ca...!&lt;br /&gt;
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Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong BOS-&amp;gt;HGK&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 30m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX811&lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City HGK-&amp;gt;SGN&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
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===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong SGN-&amp;gt;HGK&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
  2h 45m&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX766 &lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Boston HGK-&amp;gt;BOS&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
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==refs and tips==&lt;br /&gt;
====multiple services====&lt;br /&gt;
There are issues with online travel sites OTAs around customer service and refunds in case thing go wrong. Better off trying to book direct with the provider when possible. &lt;br /&gt;
* traveloka - Tami: easy booking with them.  &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.klook.com/search/result/?query=vietnam Klook]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.agoda.com Agoda flights and hotel]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.kiwi.com/us/?origin=dong-hoi-vietnam&amp;amp;destination=hanoi-vietnam&amp;amp;outboundDate=2026-03-10&amp;amp;inboundDate=no-return Kiwi]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== domestic air ====&lt;br /&gt;
:Tami: We use Vietjet, or bamboo airline&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.vietjetair.com/en VietJet]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.bambooairways.com/gl/en Bamboo Airways]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.vietnamairlines.com/us/en/ Vietnam Airlines]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== trains/buses/limos/grab ====&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://vietnam-railway.com/train/route/train-from-danang-to-hanoi#:~:text=The%20railway%20from%20Danang%20station,Danang%20to%20Hanoi%20or%20return). Vietnam Railway]&lt;br /&gt;
* grab -app installed&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://12go.tp.st/QWH4f43u?trs=277068&amp;amp;journey_id=BZT4c9v1cXWYg4Eqw83NK&amp;amp;trace_id=Zzdb1b20bfe85740a78829d1d-495575&amp;amp;promo_kind=tp_short&amp;amp;page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthesensiblefay.com%2Fblog%2Fvietnam-itinerary&amp;amp;product_type=tp_manual&amp;amp;install_type=partner 12Go]&lt;br /&gt;
==== accomodations ====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://agoda.tp.st/Fyn8Wh44?trs=277068&amp;amp;journey_id=X7kmt02BBZbPwG2Io490-&amp;amp;trace_id=Zzdb1b20bfe85740a78829d1d-495575&amp;amp;promo_kind=tp_short&amp;amp;page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthesensiblefay.com%2Fblog%2Fvietnam-itinerary&amp;amp;product_type=tp_manual&amp;amp;install_type=partner Agoda - filter travel sustainable or homestays]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== tours ====&lt;br /&gt;
==== blogs ====&lt;br /&gt;
* https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/332906624145754 hello vietnam -facebook]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/ reddit.com/r/VietNam/] [https://www.reddit.com/r/Vietnam_Tourism/  reddit.com/r/Vietnam_Tourism/]&lt;br /&gt;
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== todo ==&lt;br /&gt;
I am TIMOTHY MCKENNA Booking number 26KK202060695. I made a dumb mistake on my application. The flight from HKG to SGN actually arrives a day later 2026-03-04. Everything else is the same. Can I still use that voucher. Could you reissue if I cannot?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Tami:  I usually use fast track service to get through custom more quickly because depend on the day how much flights coming same time at airport especially night time .Wait long line was nightmare:( but still wait for luggage 🧳Let me know what you guys want I can arrange that. Time still far away not worries until early February&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.agoda.com/activities/detail?activityId=1433950&amp;amp;cityId=13170&amp;amp;site_id=1920321&amp;amp;tag=7f4af76c-9b20-4329-82c5-d385849386a4&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=20985639569&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAApWUCBK20VvmNb37TvMvb6hVWSm9N&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiA1JLLBhCDARIsAAVfy7jaey33fdAcmgYsPABJIBOBhwcXt4IiEvapW9KqtVTrtQQXEc2WTa4aAuTREALw_wcB&amp;amp;cid=1920321&amp;amp;enrichedOfferId=2140953&amp;amp;pax=8_2&amp;amp;offerOptionId=0&amp;amp;travelDate=2026-03-03 fast track Agoda $15.23] &amp;amp;check;&lt;br /&gt;
* know what Vietnam banks work with our ATM's EasternBank Rockland Trust are SUM, &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://evisa.gov.vn/ visa requirements] [https://evisa.xuatnhapcanh.gov.vn/trang-chu-ttdt National Portal on Immigration] &amp;amp;check;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://safetywing.com/?referenceID=26014883&amp;amp;utm_source=26014883&amp;amp;utm_medium=Ambassador travel insurance]&lt;br /&gt;
* e-sim [https://vietteltelecom.vn/tin-tuc/chi-tiet/buy-viettel-esim-in-vietnam-price-how-to-buy/10616196 how to buy at airport] Viettel: International Terminal: Arrival Hall, after baggage claim and customs exit. Official Viettel kiosks always display the signature red and white Viettel logo, often alongside phrases such as “Tourist SIM,” “Viettel eSIM”. The entire process usually takes less than 10 minutes, ensuring you can go online right away. SD135T	30 days	VND 135,000	5GB per day&lt;br /&gt;
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https://vietnamnomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Map-of-railway-stations-in-Vietnam-new.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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=senior travel tips=&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Weather and Climate:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnam’s weather varies a lot depending on the region and month. &lt;br /&gt;
December to March, &lt;br /&gt;
North   (Hanoi, Ha Long Bay, Ninh Binh) can be cool 53-64°F so pack a light jacket. &lt;br /&gt;
Central (Da Nang, Hoi An, Hue) is mild and pleasant&lt;br /&gt;
South   (Ho Chi Minh City, Mekong Delta) stays warm and humid-avoid midday outdoor activities           to prevent exhaustion or dehydration&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Accommodation:&lt;br /&gt;
Choose accommodations with elevators, air conditioning. &lt;br /&gt;
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3. Transportation:&lt;br /&gt;
Use private car services or ride apps like Grab, where you can travel comfortably with air conditioning. For longer distances, domestic flights or trains with sleeper cabins are great options just book early for convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
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4. Sightseeing:&lt;br /&gt;
Stick to accessible attractions with minimal walking or steps. Many famous spots like the War Remnants Museum, Ben Thanh Market (HCMC), Hoi An Ancient Town, and Hanoi’s Old Quarter can be enjoyed at a relaxed pace. &lt;br /&gt;
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5. Health and Safety:&lt;br /&gt;
Make sure to stay hydrated, use sunscreen and a hat, and takes short breaks during the day. It’s a good idea to bring any prescription medications and a doctor’s note, and to check if travel insurance covers medical emergencies abroad. Hospitals in major cities like Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City have international clinics with English-speaking staff.&lt;br /&gt;
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6. Food and Hydration:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnamese food is delicious but can sometimes be oily or spicy. Choose restaurants with good hygiene or those catering to tourists. Always drink bottled or filtered water.&lt;br /&gt;
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7. Rest and Schedule:&lt;br /&gt;
Plan shorter days with breaks in cafés or shaded areas. Many older travelers enjoy Vietnam’s slower, relaxed rhythm watching daily life from a riverside café is often just as memorable as sightseeing.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://tonkin-travel.com/vietnam-tour-for-seniors/ itinerary for seniors]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 1. Da Nang / Hoi An =&lt;br /&gt;
=====Wed3/4 - Mon3/9 [https://www.google.com/maps/@15.9747255,108.2502142,12z?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D region map]=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== air:(70-82°F), water(77°F), dry=====&lt;br /&gt;
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We start the trip by flying right into Danang sometime after our flight arrives in SGN at 10:35AM. They say it takes 3-4 hours to clear customs and get to the domestic terminal. We are on a Vietnam Air VN134 3:15 flight so it could be tight. Getting an e-visa and FastTrack That might help. When we arrive in Da Nang we look for out Limo `Peri and Tim` to Hoi An'.&lt;br /&gt;
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The attraction is a few days on the beach,   [https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species snorkeling] and possibly body [https://thesurfatlas.com/vietnam-surf/surfing-in-danang/ surfing].&lt;br /&gt;
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The limo takes us to Hoi An, An Bang Beach, The Watermark Beachside Hotel Wed 3/4 - Fri 3/6 for 2 nights. From there we could maybe bicycle 5.2km(3.1mi) into town for an evening or take a [https://www.klook.com/activity/9185-tra-que-village-cooking-class-hoi-an/ Farm Cooking Class]. Or catch a show in Hoi An [https://www.facebook.com/reel/1282399736968768 Memories show]. there is a museum [https://blisshoian.com/news/tan-ky-oid-house/ Tan Ky ancestral house]&lt;br /&gt;
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Early on Friday morning we head to Cham Island and Tuan Thanh Homestay. Our plan is to spend a day on the island. Then, the next morning we will go out on the dock and try to get on the [https://tigerfishdivers.com/ Tigerfish] tour to snorkel for a day. Hopefully they will give us a ride back to Hoi An when the day is done. &lt;br /&gt;
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When we return from the island that afternoon/evening we could visit oldtown heading back to Da Nang sometime on Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
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We will arrive in Da Nang and stay at Sala Danang Beach Hotel Sat 3/7 - Mon 3/9 for another day at the beach, surfing or snorkeling. &lt;br /&gt;
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On Mon 3/9 we get on a train TN4 to Dong Hoi, getting to the station by 6:30AM. &lt;br /&gt;
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===[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Da Nang Snorkeling]===&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
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Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. [https://tigerfishdivers.com/ Tigerfish] are recommended snorkel tour operators.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
=====warm, sunny weather, clear skies, calm seas,(81-86°F)(water77-88°F)=====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cham+Islands/@15.9561378,108.4954196,14.75z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x31426da8c0c58939:0x9ba2c3cff0f65060!8m2!3d15.9415516!4d108.4810261!16s%2Fm%2F05zx4dc?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map]&lt;br /&gt;
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You should [https://hoabinhtourist.com/en/blog/hoi-an-to-cham-island-ferry#:~:text=For%20a%20budget-friendly%20route%2C%20take%20the%20wooden,and%20round-trip%20tickets%20cost%20350%2C000%E2%80%93400%2C000%20VND%20(~$15%E2%80%9317). go there] and [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-coral-homestay-amp-pub.html?label=mkt123sc-d1b0b225-78d9-4246-82be-a3952e943b35&amp;amp;aid=355028&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-06&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-07&amp;amp;dest_id=248247&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;srpvid=4fca247295af0409&amp;amp;srepoch=1768021887&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1215748202_421959470_0_0_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title stay one night], rent a scooter and visit the beaches, visit Ray Ong Bang. Then the next morning do a snorkeling tour with [https://tigerfishdivers.com Tigerfish] and catch a ride with them back to Hoi An. They pick up and drop off customers in Hoi An and take them over to Cham on a catamaran so you get a nice boat ride. They have to make a stop on Cham (to check in with the local authorities and they have to check out later, too) before taking everyone to the snorkel/diving sites. So if you are already on Cham, you avoid the early wake up in Hoi An. They'll pick you up around 9:15am on Cham. They finish with lunch on Chong beach so you can skip visiting that beach by yourself as you'll get that with them [https://www.facebook.com/groups/152330905406162/posts/1715095659129671/ facebook post -Josephine Cong]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND ($20-28)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other Things to do in Hoi An===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Local Food====&lt;br /&gt;
* Cao Lau- chewy, yellowish noodles made with lye water and ash from a specific well,  with pork, herbs, bean sprouts, and crispy croutons, and a small amount of rich, savory broth&lt;br /&gt;
* White Rose Dumplings - rice paper wrappers shaped like roses, with minced shrimp and pork, steamed and topped with crispy fried shallots, served with a savory-sweet dipping sauce.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Classes====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.pelago.com/en-SG/activity/pl5vxotc7-bamboo-craft-workshop-with-souvenir-in-hoi-an-hoi-an/ Bamboo crafts]11 min by car from AnBang Beach&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-making-lantern-with-local-people-in-hoi-an-oldtown-t461469/?ranking_uuid=3cee3d96-5b52-44a5-9ca3-71810db35c99 lanterns][https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-foldable-lantern-making-class-with-local-family-t739461/ foldaable lanterns]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-wood-carving-class-with-village-master-artisan-t586826/?ranking_uuid=3cee3d96-5b52-44a5-9ca3-71810db35c99 wood carving]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.klook.com/activity/9185-tra-que-village-cooking-class-hoi-an/ cooking class]&lt;br /&gt;
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====tours====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-biking-river-islands-village-crafts-private-tour-t517962/ Mat weaving, paper making bike tour]&lt;br /&gt;
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====museums/shows====&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://blisshoian.com/news/tan-ky-oid-house/ Tan Ky ancestral house]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.facebook.com/reel/1282399736968768 Memories performance]&lt;br /&gt;
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=2. Quong Binh - Phong Nha=&lt;br /&gt;
=====highs(80-84°F) lows(67-68°F), moderate sunshine, lower humidity, and minimal rain=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== Mon 3/9 - Tue 3/10=====&lt;br /&gt;
==== capitol: Đồng Hới arriving 13:30 TN4 ====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng+B%C3%ACnh,+Vietnam/@18.974051,104.108037,7z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x3138b0f638296f2d:0x901f872e6223598f!8m2!3d17.4627582!4d106.2522143!16zL20vMDdsX3h2?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D Province] in in central Vietnam, 4 1/hrs limo/bus, 6 1/2hr train, 270 Km (162 mi) from Da Nang.  The city is a base for accessing the Phong Nha-Kẻ Bàng National Park, featuring mountainous jungle and many limestone caves including the massive Sơn Đoòng Cave.&lt;br /&gt;
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by Train:&lt;br /&gt;
* Hai Van Pass (Da Nang to Hue): This is the undisputed highlight, considered one of the world's most scenic rail routes. You'll see mountains plunging into the sea, secluded beaches, and tunnels, with the train seeming to hang between ocean and sky.&lt;br /&gt;
* Right Side for Sea Views: As the train travels north from Da Nang, the ocean and coastline will be on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
* Check Train Layouts: Some sources suggest seats in the first or fourth carriages, or seats facing forward, but it can vary.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/ Phuong Nha An An Homestay Mon 3/9 - Tue 3/10]====&lt;br /&gt;
At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
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They are happy to provide pick up transfer from Dong hoi train station to our homestay with best rate 450.000vnd`&lt;br /&gt;
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===Phong Nha===&lt;br /&gt;
In Quong Binh province, on Con river northwest of Dong Hoi, between Da Nang and Hanoi, 312 km (187 mi) from da Nang. Famous for caves. Tami recommended Son Doong cave. May be too expensive and too much geared to fit and rugged 'adventurers': [https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/complete-guide-phong-nha travel guide] [https://bea-adventurous.com/phong-nha-2/#Best_Things_To_Do_In_Phong_Nha_The_Expanded_Version Best thing to do Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
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What to Expect:&lt;br /&gt;
* Nature Immersion: Lush greenery, rivers, streams, and jungle sounds.&lt;br /&gt;
* Local Cuisine: Fresh, locally sourced ingredients, often from the farm itself.&lt;br /&gt;
* Activities: Exploring caves (Phong Nha, Paradise Cave), ziplining, relaxing, and participating in farm life.&lt;br /&gt;
* Eco-Focus: Many places emphasize sustainability and environmental education. &lt;br /&gt;
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We leave to get on the Overnight Lotus Express train - Dong Hoi -&amp;gt; Ninh Binh Tue 3/10 11:45PM. Travel to station to be arranged.&lt;br /&gt;
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=3. Ninh Binh=&lt;br /&gt;
===== Wed 3/11 - Fri 3/13=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== (64°F to 77°F), occasional light rain=====&lt;br /&gt;
Arriving in Ninh Binh from Dong Hoi @ 9:15Am on the SE20. We will get picked up.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Tam Coc====&lt;br /&gt;
Two nights at Nan House - Tam Coc [https://secure.booking.com/inbox/partner-chat?vertical=accommodation&amp;amp;external_id=5919459883&amp;amp;bn=5919459883&amp;amp;product=post_booking&amp;amp;source=email&amp;amp;channel=partner_chat&amp;amp;opened_from_source=wakeup_email bookings.com]&lt;br /&gt;
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We will be arriving by train to Nimh Binh at 8:51 on Mar 11 on the SE20. Whats App +84 912 004 405 Nan House Tam Coc Ha Nguyen, pickup at train station arranged Train SE20 150K. Asked if they could arrange departure transport to Pu Luong once we are there. They have laundry services.&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/images/2/2e/NinhBinhAttractionns.png&lt;br /&gt;
===[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/things-to-do-in-ninh-binh/ Nimh Binh Attractions]===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Trang An Boat Tour (300k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
* you don't book ahead of time. You just go into the ticket office, choose which route you want to go, pay, and they give you the ticket right there and then. Simple as that.&lt;br /&gt;
* more immersive than Tam Coc experience with clearer water, towering limestone mountains, and diverse caves. * Boats usually wait for four tourists before departing.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tours last about 2.5 to 3 hours and include stops where you can disembark to visit ancient temples and pagodas. &lt;br /&gt;
* There are three different routes; Route 3 (which includes the over 1km long Dot Cave) is a popular choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/bich-dong-pagoda/ Bich Dong Pagoda] ====&lt;br /&gt;
The pagoda is just a pleasant 3.2km ~2mi bicycle ride form Naan House Tam Coc through rice fields and villages. Early morning (7:30) is the time to visit to avoid crowds.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/bai-dinh-pagoda/ Bai Dinh Pagoda Complex] ====&lt;br /&gt;
(30k to 120k VND depending on the tram package you take)&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.discoverninhbinh.com/thung-nham-bird-garden/ Thung Nham Birds/Gardens]====&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Nan+House+Tam+coc,+Tam+C%E1%BB%91c,+Ninh+H%E1%BA%A3i,+Ninh+B%C3%ACnh,+Vietnam/Thung+Nham+Flower+Paradise,+Khu+du+l%E1%BB%8Bch+sinh+th%C3%A1i+Thung+Nham,+Th%C3%B4n+h%E1%BA%A3i+Nham,+Hoa+L%C6%B0,+Ninh+B%C3%ACnh+430000,+Vietnam/@20.2159051,105.9040457,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x31367bb91da95bd9:0x405a6b16d8ae5956!2m2!1d105.9398133!2d20.2085488!1m5!1m1!1s0x31367b0014a46ce3:0xb55592151cb7397b!2m2!1d105.888811!2d20.2231556!3e0!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDExMy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map from naan house] 8.2km ~5 mi&lt;br /&gt;
* best from 4- 6 pm&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hoa Lu Old Town Night Market====&lt;br /&gt;
not sure if it is worth it&lt;br /&gt;
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====Động Am Tiên (25k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hoa Lu Ancient Capital (20k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
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===Activities Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
* Wed 3/11, afternoon: We should be in Tam Coc before 11:00AM, time for an afternoon activity, perhaps Trang An Boat tour with some temple stops off the boat. Back to Naan house by 3:45 4-6 best time for bird sanctuary&lt;br /&gt;
* Thu 3/12 7:00: Bike to Bich Dong for morning. Or Fri AM&lt;br /&gt;
* Thu 3/12 afternoon/evening TBD&lt;br /&gt;
* Fri 3/13 We will take a Limo from Tan Coc to Pu Luong, TBA, messaged Nan House about arranging limo.&lt;br /&gt;
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=4. Pu Luong=&lt;br /&gt;
https://izitour.com/media/ckeditor/pu-luong-location.webp&lt;br /&gt;
==== Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15====&lt;br /&gt;
=====lows:17°C(63°F) highs:24-30°C (75-86°F) some humidity and maybe light showers.=====&lt;br /&gt;
It is about 144km 86mi from Hanoi. Going to Pu Luong right from Nimh Binh. It is only 106mi. (170km). Will ask nan House first, then Inh La Home.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at Inh La Home Pu Luong Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/ninh-binh-to-pu-luong/ Other Transport Co.s]====&lt;br /&gt;
* Pu Luong Express: Daily departure at either 7.30 am or 1.30 pm from Ninh Binh, $20 each way per person&lt;br /&gt;
* The Long Travel: Daily depart at 7:30 am and arrive to Pu Luong at around 11:00 am, minivans seat (16 passengers); $20 each way per person&lt;br /&gt;
* Download offline maps on your phone, you are in the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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===In Pu Luong===&lt;br /&gt;
Arriving by Limo TBA, sometime Fri 3/13.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at Inh La Home Pu Luong Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15. Excited to go to Don village Maket on Sunday from 5:00 - 8:00&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Doan+Market/@20.4469685,105.1795457,15z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x313402f23e86f21d:0xf9b6d702618ce85!8m2!3d20.4470998!4d105.1827192!16s%2Fg%2F11b6lm_m9q!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDExMy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D topo map]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=119t9uAwlBqOgRyuRBXGTzjlhcu4SPCA&amp;amp;femb=1&amp;amp;ll=20.470469600000012%2C105.22223180000003&amp;amp;z=13 map]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Easy walks====&lt;br /&gt;
* There are numerous small, flat roads  and pathways in Don village suitable for short, leisurely walks. You can wander through picturesque landscapes and past bamboo forests at a gentle pace, enjoying the quiet rhythm of local life.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pho Doan to Hieu Village (Partial Route): The section from Pho Doan market has been noted as a suitable easy, flat route for seniors. While the full 6 km route takes about 2 hours, walkers can cover shorter segments tailored to their comfort levels.&lt;br /&gt;
* Bang Village to Kho Muong Village (Partial Route): This route offers gentle trails and views of rice fields and mountains. You can explore parts of the trail to enjoy the scenery and visit the Kho Muong Cave (Bat Cave) area, though the full route is longer.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ban Cong to Bamboo Raft Area: A leisurely 2.5 km walk from Ban Cong leads to the largest stream, where you can see giant water wheels. The paths here are relatively easy and offer beautiful views along the river, with an optional bamboo rafting experience. Walks] &lt;br /&gt;
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=====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/pu-luong-nature-reserve/ Pu Luong Nature Reserve]=====&lt;br /&gt;
* Trek through terraced rice fields and bamboo forests&lt;br /&gt;
* Stay in a traditional stilt house in a Thai ethnic village&lt;br /&gt;
* Visit the impressive water wheels along the streams&lt;br /&gt;
* Join a cooking class to learn about local cuisine&lt;br /&gt;
* Take a dip in the cool mountain streams&lt;br /&gt;
* Enjoy sunrise or sunset views over the valley&lt;br /&gt;
* Pho Doan Mkt Thurs and Sun arrive before 8a&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.colorfuljourneys.com/articles/where-to-stay-in-pu-luong Guide to Pu Luong’s Villages]&lt;br /&gt;
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*  [https://12go.asia/en/travel/hanoi/pu-luong?sub_id=586f06d79d1b4710a8b12e02a-369753&amp;amp;utm_source=travelpayouts&amp;amp;vehclasses_tab=van Book a van to Hanoi here]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 5. Hanoi - Lan Ha Bay=&lt;br /&gt;
==== Sun 3/15 - Wed 3/18 ====&lt;br /&gt;
===== Hanoi:lows: 62°F-68°F,highs:72°F-78°F, humid, occasional showers.=====&lt;br /&gt;
From Pu Luong, we will take a limo to Hanoi. Arriving sometime Sunday. There we will likely take our first tour, to La Ha Bay. Sunday evening through Monday, explore Hanoi. Tuesday, 5:-00 pickup to tour Lan Ha Bay. Wednesday, Checkout to airport and David, Tami and Liam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at [https://secure.booking.com/confirmation.en-us.html?label=mkt123sc-56a0b79f-f1c7-485e-bef5-cf9c86c7a787&amp;amp;sid=e58453c7525d7f280addd1aebc7d5c5c&amp;amp;aid=355028&amp;amp;auth_key=cigyAb4FBcAXXthw&amp;amp;source=mytrips Bella Rosa Trendy Hotel &amp;amp; Spa] Sun 3/15 - Wed 3/18&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551994105220&amp;amp;sk=reels_tab Tara Travel Co] might be good for suggesting activities.&lt;br /&gt;
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== 5a. Lan Ha Bay==&lt;br /&gt;
===== highs:(70-77°F), 8-9 hours of sunshine. (water:70-72°F) =====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lan+Ha+Bay/@20.8012072,106.9938087,12z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x314a5ac42efd423d:0xcabdcf2fe3423885!8m2!3d20.7582934!4d107.0893798!16s%2Fg%2F11gzd8tr9?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map of Lab Ha Bay]&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing is finalized, but booked  [https://www.getyourguide.com/booking/26B6GG2JSTESCW3Z1MCCED609MQXWVZI?partner_id=CD951&amp;amp;visitor_id=98CD991FD8A54490B94477A3D04AAD07&amp;amp;utm_source=getyourguide&amp;amp;utm_medium=email_transactional&amp;amp;utm_campaign=shopping_cart_confirmation_v2&amp;amp;utm_content=booking_summary_manage_booking_move_v3 Get Your Guide (app)] not paid yet Beka Travel Maya on whatsapp. Will automatically process on 3/14 unless cancelled. Other options for day tours are:[https://www.getyourguide.com/-l90401?cmp=ga&amp;amp;campaign_id=6657595134&amp;amp;adgroup_id=186717800769&amp;amp;target_id=kwd-310572425171&amp;amp;loc_physical_ms=9001992&amp;amp;match_type=e&amp;amp;ad_id=770039971193&amp;amp;keyword=lan+ha+bay+tours&amp;amp;ad_position=&amp;amp;feed_item_id=&amp;amp;placement=&amp;amp;device=c&amp;amp;assetgroup_id=&amp;amp;synthetic_keyword=lan+ha+bay+tours&amp;amp;partner_id=CD951&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=6657595134&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAjojLBhAlEiwAcjhrDj_FOqcFVYMaxdHT4MezVbDxX6mC4Ard22dsuk9tK94sE18D9KAnTRoCywQQAvD_BwE&amp;amp;activityType=dayTrip&amp;amp;interestFilters=tc-48 Lan Ha Bay Day Tours]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sapa ?==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jacob'S+House+Hmong+Homestay/@22.3062377,103.9089166,14z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x36cd41a70fb9ea15:0x657fb4bd65bc7e0d!8m2!3d22.3062377!4d103.9089166!16s%2Fg%2F11ms3bmtnl?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D Homeastays]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://sites.google.com/view/myshomestaysapa/gallery?authuser=0 My's Homestay]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 6. Visit Tami, David and Liam in the South =&lt;br /&gt;
Whenever they want to see us 3/18? 3/19? til we leave from SGN Sun 3/22 11:35Am. Wherever they want to go or have us meet them. Fly from Hanoi to ?&lt;br /&gt;
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==David and Tami==&lt;br /&gt;
1/16/26&lt;br /&gt;
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After fixing mistakes like booking a plane from SGN to Da Nang a day before we are to arrive in SGN ! and things like that... we are basically booked for major transportation and accommodations. Here's the  [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam main narrative] and a [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam_itinerary#Itinerary more detailed itinerary]&lt;br /&gt;
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1/12/26&lt;br /&gt;
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Our holiday was great, we started celebrating on the 12/15 third day of Chanukah and continued through Ari and Louisa's week visit that ended last Wednesday. Lots of time with Logan, Asher, Soleil, Louisa and Sulise playing together. &lt;br /&gt;
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Back to planning for Vietnam. Peri is overdosed watching young people drinking egg coffee in Youtube videos, but has done some good research about places in Quong Binh. Starting to see searches at Bookings.com with 'no rooms available` and `one room left` for hotels in Hanoi. I feel like it is getting to be time to nail down our itinerary.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is a summary of what we are currently thinking. A more descriptive version is on the [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam wiki].&lt;br /&gt;
* After arriving at SGN at 10:35Am on 3/3, we do our best to get on a 3:15 flight to Da Nang. Maybe e-visa or FastTrack will help?&lt;br /&gt;
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Hoi An/ Da Nang&lt;br /&gt;
* We either set up a base of our `chill at the beach` phase near  My Khe beach in the city or An Bang beach in Hoi An. My Khe might have better body surfing but either could be flat. &lt;br /&gt;
* Then we play it by ear, or play it by waves, at the beach if waves, otherwise snorkel around Son Tra Peninsula. Or take an overnight trip to Cham Island and hop a ride on a snorkeling boat there. Maybe a cooking class and likely an evening in oldtown Hoi An.&lt;br /&gt;
* Get to the Da Nang train station for a morning train&lt;br /&gt;
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Quong Binh&lt;br /&gt;
* Enjoy the train ride through Hai Van Pass and 6 1/2 hrs later end up in Dong Hoi&lt;br /&gt;
* Farm stays, caves, hiking, a limo ride away to Phong Ha and environs for a couple? of days&lt;br /&gt;
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* We could figure a way to have the next stop be Ninh Binh, but it may be better just to fly to Hanoi from Dong Hoi on the one daily flight at 10:25AM.&lt;br /&gt;
* Then we may be based in Hanoi until we fly down to wherever we are going to meet you.&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe a limo bus to Bich Dong, Ninh Binh, get a place to stay for a night or two.&lt;br /&gt;
* An overnight tour to Lan Ha Bay (instead of Ha Long Bay) Cat Ba Island?&lt;br /&gt;
* Another tour or maybe just a bus to Sapa for a night&lt;br /&gt;
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So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
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To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
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5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
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But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
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To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
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Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
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Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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nice baby&lt;br /&gt;
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Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
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We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
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Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://vietnam.travel/place-to-go places to go]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/hai-long-homestay.html?aid=356980&amp;amp;label=gog235jc-10CAso9AFCEWhhaS1sb25nLWhvbWVzdGF5SDNYA2iYAogBAZgBM7gBB8gBDdgBA-gBAfgBAYgCAagCAbgC38ubywbAAgHSAiQzZTJjMDliNC1kYWM0LTQyNDEtYjA4MC02NDBlNDYzMjc0ZDHYAgHgAgE&amp;amp;sid=9c11db13c80aa6664bc9bfed6a158219&amp;amp;dest_id=-3715584&amp;amp;dest_type=city&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=1&amp;amp;hpos=1&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;srepoch=1768351225&amp;amp;srpvid=ab3004b081970369&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp; homestay in Cham Island ]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/homestay-tuan-thanh.html?label=metagha-link-MRUS-hotel-2409758_dev-desktop_los-1_bw-0_dow-Wednesday_defdate-1_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-public_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260114_ppt-_lp-2840_r-8778237271479827769&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-01-14&amp;amp;checkout=2026-01-15&amp;amp;dest_id=248247&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;srpvid=b0f108139a8f024d&amp;amp;srepoch=1768352979&amp;amp;matching_block_id=240975803_374324062_0_2_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title cham2]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [Vinh Khang Homestay 7/11 Thai Phien, Cam Pho, Hoi An ]&lt;br /&gt;
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Pu Luong and culture:&lt;br /&gt;
Beyond its natural beauty, Pu Luong preserves the rich cultural heritage of the Thai and Muong ethnic groups. Travelers can visit local villages such as Ban Don, Ban Hieu, and Kho Muong, join traditional weaving workshops, enjoy Thai folk dances, savor ethnic cuisine, and stay in rustic homestays nestled in the forest.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.jointcommission.org/en/about-us/recognizing-excellence/find-accredited-international-organizations?rfkid_7:content_filters=country:eq:Vietnam&amp;amp;rfkid_7:content_page=1&amp;amp;rfkid_7:content_limit=100&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, traditional tourism villages make excellent stops along the way: Bat Trang Ceramic Village with its centuries-old pottery craft. Tan Hoa Village and Bong Lai Valley in Quang Tri offer tranquil scenery. In addition, Tra Que Village in Hoi An is famous for its organic vegetable gardens and hands-on local cooking experiences. These destinations are easily combined into a Pu Luong itinerary, enriching the trip with diverse cultural and nature experiences Where to get medical care]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.cdc.gov/yellow-book/hcp/preparing-international-travelers/travelers-diarrhea.html Traveler's Diarrhea]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-embassy-hanoi.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768520042&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1327426201_405337745_2_1_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title#availability hotel in Old Quarter Hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/viet-hai-village-l199600/ha-noi-2-days-lan-ha-bay-hiking-biking-kayakin-t1056800/?ranking_uuid=20ac8721-cf72-4ded-b44d-87ae07894f1a Lan Ha Bay 2day tour with pickup from Hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/nan-house.html?aid=355028&amp;amp;label=mkt123sc-bee451b0-d3cc-4517-8e19-022dcd10b4e5&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-11&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-13&amp;amp;dest_id=900056405&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=18&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;hpos=18&amp;amp;matching_block_id=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;nflt=hotelfacility%3D14&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396_243120370&amp;amp;srepoch=1768507256&amp;amp;srpvid=5f4c8b78a0a80672&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;#tab-main TamCoc Homestay]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/inh-la-home.html?aid=356929&amp;amp;label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-8943270_dev-desktop_los-2_bw-56_dow-Friday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-public_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260313_ppt-_lp-2840_r-1211404217458449427&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-13&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-15&amp;amp;dest_id=8943270&amp;amp;dest_type=hotel&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=1&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;hpos=1&amp;amp;matching_block_id=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0__240000000&amp;amp;srepoch=1768517994&amp;amp;srpvid=b6e9a1ad54240545&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp; accomodation in ban don near pho doan]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/bridgo-home.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D216&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768519626&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1240430601_0_2_0_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title old town hanoi airbnb type]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-embassy-hanoi.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768520042&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1327426201_405337745_2_1_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title#availability hotel in old quarter hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/hanoi-bella-rosa-trendy.html?aid=356929&amp;amp;label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=247978&amp;amp;dest_type=hotel&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=3&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;hpos=3&amp;amp;matching_block_id=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309_310938796&amp;amp;srepoch=1768521823&amp;amp;srpvid=7ed9a42d205700c7&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;#tab-main hotel &amp;quot;close to lake]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==[[Vietnam itinerary]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
:[https://www.oanda.com/currency-converter/en/?from=VND&amp;amp;to=USD&amp;amp;amount=2629303 currency converter]&lt;br /&gt;
USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
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VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
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==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.cathaypacific.com/mb/#!/en_US/hub/F9SWXD Cathay pacific] flights/manage bookings&lt;br /&gt;
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Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong BOS-&amp;gt;HGK&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City HGK-&amp;gt;SGN&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
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===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong SGN-&amp;gt;HGK&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Boston HGK-&amp;gt;BOS&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
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==refs and tips==&lt;br /&gt;
====multiple services====&lt;br /&gt;
There are issues with online travel sites OTAs around customer service and refunds in case thing go wrong. Better off trying to book direct with the provider when possible. &lt;br /&gt;
* traveloka - Tami: easy booking with them.  &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.klook.com/search/result/?query=vietnam Klook]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.agoda.com Agoda flights and hotel]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.kiwi.com/us/?origin=dong-hoi-vietnam&amp;amp;destination=hanoi-vietnam&amp;amp;outboundDate=2026-03-10&amp;amp;inboundDate=no-return Kiwi]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== domestic air ====&lt;br /&gt;
:Tami: We use Vietjet, or bamboo airline&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.vietjetair.com/en VietJet]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.bambooairways.com/gl/en Bamboo Airways]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.vietnamairlines.com/us/en/ Vietnam Airlines]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== trains/buses/limos/grab ====&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://vietnam-railway.com/train/route/train-from-danang-to-hanoi#:~:text=The%20railway%20from%20Danang%20station,Danang%20to%20Hanoi%20or%20return). Vietnam Railway]&lt;br /&gt;
* grab -app installed&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://12go.tp.st/QWH4f43u?trs=277068&amp;amp;journey_id=BZT4c9v1cXWYg4Eqw83NK&amp;amp;trace_id=Zzdb1b20bfe85740a78829d1d-495575&amp;amp;promo_kind=tp_short&amp;amp;page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthesensiblefay.com%2Fblog%2Fvietnam-itinerary&amp;amp;product_type=tp_manual&amp;amp;install_type=partner 12Go]&lt;br /&gt;
==== accomodations ====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://agoda.tp.st/Fyn8Wh44?trs=277068&amp;amp;journey_id=X7kmt02BBZbPwG2Io490-&amp;amp;trace_id=Zzdb1b20bfe85740a78829d1d-495575&amp;amp;promo_kind=tp_short&amp;amp;page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthesensiblefay.com%2Fblog%2Fvietnam-itinerary&amp;amp;product_type=tp_manual&amp;amp;install_type=partner Agoda - filter travel sustainable or homestays]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== tours ====&lt;br /&gt;
==== blogs ====&lt;br /&gt;
* https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/332906624145754 hello vietnam -facebook]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/ reddit.com/r/VietNam/] [https://www.reddit.com/r/Vietnam_Tourism/  reddit.com/r/Vietnam_Tourism/]&lt;br /&gt;
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== todo ==&lt;br /&gt;
I am TIMOTHY MCKENNA Booking number 26KK202060695. I made a dumb mistake on my application. The flight from HKG to SGN actually arrives a day later 2026-03-04. Everything else is the same. Can I still use that voucher. Could you reissue if I cannot?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Tami:  I usually use fast track service to get through custom more quickly because depend on the day how much flights coming same time at airport especially night time .Wait long line was nightmare:( but still wait for luggage 🧳Let me know what you guys want I can arrange that. Time still far away not worries until early February&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.agoda.com/activities/detail?activityId=1433950&amp;amp;cityId=13170&amp;amp;site_id=1920321&amp;amp;tag=7f4af76c-9b20-4329-82c5-d385849386a4&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=20985639569&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAApWUCBK20VvmNb37TvMvb6hVWSm9N&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiA1JLLBhCDARIsAAVfy7jaey33fdAcmgYsPABJIBOBhwcXt4IiEvapW9KqtVTrtQQXEc2WTa4aAuTREALw_wcB&amp;amp;cid=1920321&amp;amp;enrichedOfferId=2140953&amp;amp;pax=8_2&amp;amp;offerOptionId=0&amp;amp;travelDate=2026-03-03 fast track Agoda $15.23] &amp;amp;check;&lt;br /&gt;
* know what Vietnam banks work with our ATM's EasternBank Rockland Trust are SUM, &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://evisa.gov.vn/ visa requirements] [https://evisa.xuatnhapcanh.gov.vn/trang-chu-ttdt National Portal on Immigration] &amp;amp;check;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://safetywing.com/?referenceID=26014883&amp;amp;utm_source=26014883&amp;amp;utm_medium=Ambassador travel insurance]&lt;br /&gt;
* e-sim [https://vietteltelecom.vn/tin-tuc/chi-tiet/buy-viettel-esim-in-vietnam-price-how-to-buy/10616196 how to buy at airport] Viettel: International Terminal: Arrival Hall, after baggage claim and customs exit. Official Viettel kiosks always display the signature red and white Viettel logo, often alongside phrases such as “Tourist SIM,” “Viettel eSIM”. The entire process usually takes less than 10 minutes, ensuring you can go online right away. SD135T	30 days	VND 135,000	5GB per day&lt;br /&gt;
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https://vietnamnomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Map-of-railway-stations-in-Vietnam-new.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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=senior travel tips=&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Weather and Climate:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnam’s weather varies a lot depending on the region and month. &lt;br /&gt;
December to March, &lt;br /&gt;
North   (Hanoi, Ha Long Bay, Ninh Binh) can be cool 53-64°F so pack a light jacket. &lt;br /&gt;
Central (Da Nang, Hoi An, Hue) is mild and pleasant&lt;br /&gt;
South   (Ho Chi Minh City, Mekong Delta) stays warm and humid-avoid midday outdoor activities           to prevent exhaustion or dehydration&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Accommodation:&lt;br /&gt;
Choose accommodations with elevators, air conditioning. &lt;br /&gt;
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3. Transportation:&lt;br /&gt;
Use private car services or ride apps like Grab, where you can travel comfortably with air conditioning. For longer distances, domestic flights or trains with sleeper cabins are great options just book early for convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
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4. Sightseeing:&lt;br /&gt;
Stick to accessible attractions with minimal walking or steps. Many famous spots like the War Remnants Museum, Ben Thanh Market (HCMC), Hoi An Ancient Town, and Hanoi’s Old Quarter can be enjoyed at a relaxed pace. &lt;br /&gt;
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5. Health and Safety:&lt;br /&gt;
Make sure to stay hydrated, use sunscreen and a hat, and takes short breaks during the day. It’s a good idea to bring any prescription medications and a doctor’s note, and to check if travel insurance covers medical emergencies abroad. Hospitals in major cities like Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City have international clinics with English-speaking staff.&lt;br /&gt;
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6. Food and Hydration:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnamese food is delicious but can sometimes be oily or spicy. Choose restaurants with good hygiene or those catering to tourists. Always drink bottled or filtered water.&lt;br /&gt;
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7. Rest and Schedule:&lt;br /&gt;
Plan shorter days with breaks in cafés or shaded areas. Many older travelers enjoy Vietnam’s slower, relaxed rhythm watching daily life from a riverside café is often just as memorable as sightseeing.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://tonkin-travel.com/vietnam-tour-for-seniors/ itinerary for seniors]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 1. Da Nang / Hoi An =&lt;br /&gt;
=====Wed3/4 - Mon3/9 [https://www.google.com/maps/@15.9747255,108.2502142,12z?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D region map]=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== air:(70-82°F), water(77°F), dry=====&lt;br /&gt;
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We start the trip by flying right into Danang sometime after our flight arrives in SGN at 10:35AM. They say it takes 3-4 hours to clear customs and get to the domestic terminal. We are on a Vietnam Air VN134 3:15 flight so it could be tight. Getting an e-visa and FastTrack That might help. When we arrive in Da Nang we look for out Limo `Peri and Tim` to Hoi An'.&lt;br /&gt;
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The attraction is a few days on the beach,   [https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species snorkeling] and possibly body [https://thesurfatlas.com/vietnam-surf/surfing-in-danang/ surfing].&lt;br /&gt;
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The limo takes us to Hoi An, An Bang Beach, The Watermark Beachside Hotel Wed 3/4 - Fri 3/6 for 2 nights. From there we could maybe bicycle 5.2km(3.1mi) into town for an evening or take a [https://www.klook.com/activity/9185-tra-que-village-cooking-class-hoi-an/ Farm Cooking Class]. Or catch a show in Hoi An [https://www.facebook.com/reel/1282399736968768 Memories show]. there is a museum [https://blisshoian.com/news/tan-ky-oid-house/ Tan Ky ancestral house]&lt;br /&gt;
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Early on Friday morning we head to Cham Island and Tuan Thanh Homestay. Our plan is to spend a day on the island. Then, the next morning we will go out on the dock and try to get on the [https://tigerfishdivers.com/ Tigerfish] tour to snorkel for a day. Hopefully they will give us a ride back to Hoi An when the day is done. &lt;br /&gt;
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When we return from the island that afternoon/evening we could visit oldtown heading back to Da Nang sometime on Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
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We will arrive in Da Nang and stay at Sala Danang Beach Hotel Sat 3/7 - Mon 3/9 for another day at the beach, surfing or snorkeling. &lt;br /&gt;
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On Mon 3/9 we get on a train TN4 to Dong Hoi, getting to the station by 6:30AM. &lt;br /&gt;
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===[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Da Nang Snorkeling]===&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
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Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. [https://tigerfishdivers.com/ Tigerfish] are recommended snorkel tour operators.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
=====warm, sunny weather, clear skies, calm seas,(81-86°F)(water77-88°F)=====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cham+Islands/@15.9561378,108.4954196,14.75z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x31426da8c0c58939:0x9ba2c3cff0f65060!8m2!3d15.9415516!4d108.4810261!16s%2Fm%2F05zx4dc?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map]&lt;br /&gt;
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You should [https://hoabinhtourist.com/en/blog/hoi-an-to-cham-island-ferry#:~:text=For%20a%20budget-friendly%20route%2C%20take%20the%20wooden,and%20round-trip%20tickets%20cost%20350%2C000%E2%80%93400%2C000%20VND%20(~$15%E2%80%9317). go there] and [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-coral-homestay-amp-pub.html?label=mkt123sc-d1b0b225-78d9-4246-82be-a3952e943b35&amp;amp;aid=355028&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-06&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-07&amp;amp;dest_id=248247&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;srpvid=4fca247295af0409&amp;amp;srepoch=1768021887&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1215748202_421959470_0_0_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title stay one night], rent a scooter and visit the beaches, visit Ray Ong Bang. Then the next morning do a snorkeling tour with [https://tigerfishdivers.com Tigerfish] and catch a ride with them back to Hoi An. They pick up and drop off customers in Hoi An and take them over to Cham on a catamaran so you get a nice boat ride. They have to make a stop on Cham (to check in with the local authorities and they have to check out later, too) before taking everyone to the snorkel/diving sites. So if you are already on Cham, you avoid the early wake up in Hoi An. They'll pick you up around 9:15am on Cham. They finish with lunch on Chong beach so you can skip visiting that beach by yourself as you'll get that with them [https://www.facebook.com/groups/152330905406162/posts/1715095659129671/ facebook post -Josephine Cong]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND ($20-28)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other Things to do in Hoi An===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Local Food====&lt;br /&gt;
* Cao Lau- chewy, yellowish noodles made with lye water and ash from a specific well,  with pork, herbs, bean sprouts, and crispy croutons, and a small amount of rich, savory broth&lt;br /&gt;
* White Rose Dumplings - rice paper wrappers shaped like roses, with minced shrimp and pork, steamed and topped with crispy fried shallots, served with a savory-sweet dipping sauce.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Classes====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.pelago.com/en-SG/activity/pl5vxotc7-bamboo-craft-workshop-with-souvenir-in-hoi-an-hoi-an/ Bamboo crafts]11 min by car from AnBang Beach&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-making-lantern-with-local-people-in-hoi-an-oldtown-t461469/?ranking_uuid=3cee3d96-5b52-44a5-9ca3-71810db35c99 lanterns][https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-foldable-lantern-making-class-with-local-family-t739461/ foldaable lanterns]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-wood-carving-class-with-village-master-artisan-t586826/?ranking_uuid=3cee3d96-5b52-44a5-9ca3-71810db35c99 wood carving]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.klook.com/activity/9185-tra-que-village-cooking-class-hoi-an/ cooking class]&lt;br /&gt;
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====tours====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-biking-river-islands-village-crafts-private-tour-t517962/ Mat weaving, paper making bike tour]&lt;br /&gt;
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====museums/shows====&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://blisshoian.com/news/tan-ky-oid-house/ Tan Ky ancestral house]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.facebook.com/reel/1282399736968768 Memories performance]&lt;br /&gt;
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=2. Quong Binh - Phong Nha=&lt;br /&gt;
=====highs(80-84°F) lows(67-68°F), moderate sunshine, lower humidity, and minimal rain=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== Mon 3/9 - Tue 3/10=====&lt;br /&gt;
==== capitol: Đồng Hới arriving 13:30 TN4 ====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng+B%C3%ACnh,+Vietnam/@18.974051,104.108037,7z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x3138b0f638296f2d:0x901f872e6223598f!8m2!3d17.4627582!4d106.2522143!16zL20vMDdsX3h2?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D Province] in in central Vietnam, 4 1/hrs limo/bus, 6 1/2hr train, 270 Km (162 mi) from Da Nang.  The city is a base for accessing the Phong Nha-Kẻ Bàng National Park, featuring mountainous jungle and many limestone caves including the massive Sơn Đoòng Cave.&lt;br /&gt;
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by Train:&lt;br /&gt;
* Hai Van Pass (Da Nang to Hue): This is the undisputed highlight, considered one of the world's most scenic rail routes. You'll see mountains plunging into the sea, secluded beaches, and tunnels, with the train seeming to hang between ocean and sky.&lt;br /&gt;
* Right Side for Sea Views: As the train travels north from Da Nang, the ocean and coastline will be on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
* Check Train Layouts: Some sources suggest seats in the first or fourth carriages, or seats facing forward, but it can vary.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/ Phuong Nha An An Homestay Mon 3/9 - Tue 3/10]====&lt;br /&gt;
At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
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They are happy to provide pick up transfer from Dong hoi train station to our homestay with best rate 450.000vnd`&lt;br /&gt;
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===Phong Nha===&lt;br /&gt;
In Quong Binh province, on Con river northwest of Dong Hoi, between Da Nang and Hanoi, 312 km (187 mi) from da Nang. Famous for caves. Tami recommended Son Doong cave. May be too expensive and too much geared to fit and rugged 'adventurers': [https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/complete-guide-phong-nha travel guide] [https://bea-adventurous.com/phong-nha-2/#Best_Things_To_Do_In_Phong_Nha_The_Expanded_Version Best thing to do Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
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What to Expect:&lt;br /&gt;
* Nature Immersion: Lush greenery, rivers, streams, and jungle sounds.&lt;br /&gt;
* Local Cuisine: Fresh, locally sourced ingredients, often from the farm itself.&lt;br /&gt;
* Activities: Exploring caves (Phong Nha, Paradise Cave), ziplining, relaxing, and participating in farm life.&lt;br /&gt;
* Eco-Focus: Many places emphasize sustainability and environmental education. &lt;br /&gt;
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We leave to get on the Overnight Lotus Express train - Dong Hoi -&amp;gt; Ninh Binh Tue 3/10 11:45PM. Travel to station to be arranged.&lt;br /&gt;
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=3. Ninh Binh=&lt;br /&gt;
===== Wed 3/11 - Fri 3/13=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== (64°F to 77°F), occasional light rain=====&lt;br /&gt;
Arriving in Ninh Binh from Dong Hoi @ 9:15Am on the SE20. We will get picked up.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Tam Coc====&lt;br /&gt;
Two nights at Nan House - Tam Coc [https://secure.booking.com/inbox/partner-chat?vertical=accommodation&amp;amp;external_id=5919459883&amp;amp;bn=5919459883&amp;amp;product=post_booking&amp;amp;source=email&amp;amp;channel=partner_chat&amp;amp;opened_from_source=wakeup_email bookings.com]&lt;br /&gt;
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We will be arriving by train to Nimh Binh at 8:51 on Mar 11 on the SE20. Whats App +84 912 004 405 Nan House Tam Coc Ha Nguyen, pickup at train station arranged Train SE20 150K. Asked if they could arrange departure transport to Pu Luong once we are there. They have laundry services.&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/images/2/2e/NinhBinhAttractionns.png&lt;br /&gt;
===[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/things-to-do-in-ninh-binh/ Nimh Binh Attractions]===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Trang An Boat Tour (300k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
* you don't book ahead of time. You just go into the ticket office, choose which route you want to go, pay, and they give you the ticket right there and then. Simple as that.&lt;br /&gt;
* more immersive than Tam Coc experience with clearer water, towering limestone mountains, and diverse caves. * Boats usually wait for four tourists before departing.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tours last about 2.5 to 3 hours and include stops where you can disembark to visit ancient temples and pagodas. &lt;br /&gt;
* There are three different routes; Route 3 (which includes the over 1km long Dot Cave) is a popular choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/bich-dong-pagoda/ Bich Dong Pagoda] ====&lt;br /&gt;
The pagoda is just a pleasant 3.2km ~2mi bicycle ride form Naan House Tam Coc through rice fields and villages. Early morning (7:30) is the time to visit to avoid crowds.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/bai-dinh-pagoda/ Bai Dinh Pagoda Complex] ====&lt;br /&gt;
(30k to 120k VND depending on the tram package you take)&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.discoverninhbinh.com/thung-nham-bird-garden/ Thung Nham Birds/Gardens]====&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Nan+House+Tam+coc,+Tam+C%E1%BB%91c,+Ninh+H%E1%BA%A3i,+Ninh+B%C3%ACnh,+Vietnam/Thung+Nham+Flower+Paradise,+Khu+du+l%E1%BB%8Bch+sinh+th%C3%A1i+Thung+Nham,+Th%C3%B4n+h%E1%BA%A3i+Nham,+Hoa+L%C6%B0,+Ninh+B%C3%ACnh+430000,+Vietnam/@20.2159051,105.9040457,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x31367bb91da95bd9:0x405a6b16d8ae5956!2m2!1d105.9398133!2d20.2085488!1m5!1m1!1s0x31367b0014a46ce3:0xb55592151cb7397b!2m2!1d105.888811!2d20.2231556!3e0!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDExMy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map from naan house] 8.2km ~5 mi&lt;br /&gt;
* best from 4- 6 pm&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hoa Lu Old Town Night Market====&lt;br /&gt;
not sure if it is worth it&lt;br /&gt;
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====Động Am Tiên (25k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hoa Lu Ancient Capital (20k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
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===Activities Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
* Wed 3/11, afternoon: We should be in Tam Coc before 11:00AM, time for an afternoon activity, perhaps Trang An Boat tour with some temple stops off the boat. Back to Naan house by 3:45 4-6 best time for bird sanctuary&lt;br /&gt;
* Thu 3/12 7:00: Bike to Bich Dong for morning. Or Fri AM&lt;br /&gt;
* Thu 3/12 afternoon/evening TBD&lt;br /&gt;
* Fri 3/13 We will take a Limo from Tan Coc to Pu Luong, TBA, messaged Nan House about arranging limo.&lt;br /&gt;
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=4. Pu Luong=&lt;br /&gt;
https://izitour.com/media/ckeditor/pu-luong-location.webp&lt;br /&gt;
==== Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15====&lt;br /&gt;
=====lows:17°C(63°F) highs:24-30°C (75-86°F) some humidity and maybe light showers.=====&lt;br /&gt;
It is about 144km 86mi from Hanoi. Going to Pu Luong right from Nimh Binh. It is only 106mi. (170km). Will ask nan House first, then Inh La Home.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at Inh La Home Pu Luong Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/ninh-binh-to-pu-luong/ Other Transport Co.s]====&lt;br /&gt;
* Pu Luong Express: Daily departure at either 7.30 am or 1.30 pm from Ninh Binh, $20 each way per person&lt;br /&gt;
* The Long Travel: Daily depart at 7:30 am and arrive to Pu Luong at around 11:00 am, minivans seat (16 passengers); $20 each way per person&lt;br /&gt;
* Download offline maps on your phone, you are in the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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===In Pu Luong===&lt;br /&gt;
Arriving by Limo TBA, sometime Fri 3/13.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at Inh La Home Pu Luong Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15. Excited to go to Don village Maket on Sunday from 5:00 - 8:00&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Doan+Market/@20.4469685,105.1795457,15z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x313402f23e86f21d:0xf9b6d702618ce85!8m2!3d20.4470998!4d105.1827192!16s%2Fg%2F11b6lm_m9q!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDExMy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D topo map]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=119t9uAwlBqOgRyuRBXGTzjlhcu4SPCA&amp;amp;femb=1&amp;amp;ll=20.470469600000012%2C105.22223180000003&amp;amp;z=13 map]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Easy walks====&lt;br /&gt;
* There are numerous small, flat roads  and pathways in Don village suitable for short, leisurely walks. You can wander through picturesque landscapes and past bamboo forests at a gentle pace, enjoying the quiet rhythm of local life.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pho Doan to Hieu Village (Partial Route): The section from Pho Doan market has been noted as a suitable easy, flat route for seniors. While the full 6 km route takes about 2 hours, walkers can cover shorter segments tailored to their comfort levels.&lt;br /&gt;
* Bang Village to Kho Muong Village (Partial Route): This route offers gentle trails and views of rice fields and mountains. You can explore parts of the trail to enjoy the scenery and visit the Kho Muong Cave (Bat Cave) area, though the full route is longer.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ban Cong to Bamboo Raft Area: A leisurely 2.5 km walk from Ban Cong leads to the largest stream, where you can see giant water wheels. The paths here are relatively easy and offer beautiful views along the river, with an optional bamboo rafting experience. Walks] &lt;br /&gt;
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=====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/pu-luong-nature-reserve/ Pu Luong Nature Reserve]=====&lt;br /&gt;
* Trek through terraced rice fields and bamboo forests&lt;br /&gt;
* Stay in a traditional stilt house in a Thai ethnic village&lt;br /&gt;
* Visit the impressive water wheels along the streams&lt;br /&gt;
* Join a cooking class to learn about local cuisine&lt;br /&gt;
* Take a dip in the cool mountain streams&lt;br /&gt;
* Enjoy sunrise or sunset views over the valley&lt;br /&gt;
* Pho Doan Mkt Thurs and Sun arrive before 8a&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.colorfuljourneys.com/articles/where-to-stay-in-pu-luong Guide to Pu Luong’s Villages]&lt;br /&gt;
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*  [https://12go.asia/en/travel/hanoi/pu-luong?sub_id=586f06d79d1b4710a8b12e02a-369753&amp;amp;utm_source=travelpayouts&amp;amp;vehclasses_tab=van Book a van to Hanoi here]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 5. Hanoi - Lan Ha Bay=&lt;br /&gt;
==== Sun 3/15 - Wed 3/18 ====&lt;br /&gt;
===== Hanoi:lows: 62°F-68°F,highs:72°F-78°F, humid, occasional showers.=====&lt;br /&gt;
From Pu Luong, we will take a limo to Hanoi. Arriving sometime Sunday. There we will likely take our first tour, to La Ha Bay. Sunday evening through Monday, explore Hanoi. Tuesday, 5:-00 pickup to tour Lan Ha Bay. Wednesday, Checkout to airport and David, Tami and Liam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at [https://secure.booking.com/confirmation.en-us.html?label=mkt123sc-56a0b79f-f1c7-485e-bef5-cf9c86c7a787&amp;amp;sid=e58453c7525d7f280addd1aebc7d5c5c&amp;amp;aid=355028&amp;amp;auth_key=cigyAb4FBcAXXthw&amp;amp;source=mytrips Bella Rosa Trendy Hotel &amp;amp; Spa] Sun 3/15 - Wed 3/18&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551994105220&amp;amp;sk=reels_tab Tara Travel Co] might be good for suggesting activities.&lt;br /&gt;
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== 5a. Lan Ha Bay==&lt;br /&gt;
===== highs:(70-77°F), 8-9 hours of sunshine. (water:70-72°F) =====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lan+Ha+Bay/@20.8012072,106.9938087,12z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x314a5ac42efd423d:0xcabdcf2fe3423885!8m2!3d20.7582934!4d107.0893798!16s%2Fg%2F11gzd8tr9?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map of Lab Ha Bay]&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing is finalized, but booked  [https://www.getyourguide.com/booking/26B6GG2JSTESCW3Z1MCCED609MQXWVZI?partner_id=CD951&amp;amp;visitor_id=98CD991FD8A54490B94477A3D04AAD07&amp;amp;utm_source=getyourguide&amp;amp;utm_medium=email_transactional&amp;amp;utm_campaign=shopping_cart_confirmation_v2&amp;amp;utm_content=booking_summary_manage_booking_move_v3 Get Your Guide (app)] not paid yet Beka Travel Maya on whatsapp. Will automatically process on 3/14 unless cancelled. Other options for day tours are:[https://www.getyourguide.com/-l90401?cmp=ga&amp;amp;campaign_id=6657595134&amp;amp;adgroup_id=186717800769&amp;amp;target_id=kwd-310572425171&amp;amp;loc_physical_ms=9001992&amp;amp;match_type=e&amp;amp;ad_id=770039971193&amp;amp;keyword=lan+ha+bay+tours&amp;amp;ad_position=&amp;amp;feed_item_id=&amp;amp;placement=&amp;amp;device=c&amp;amp;assetgroup_id=&amp;amp;synthetic_keyword=lan+ha+bay+tours&amp;amp;partner_id=CD951&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=6657595134&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAjojLBhAlEiwAcjhrDj_FOqcFVYMaxdHT4MezVbDxX6mC4Ard22dsuk9tK94sE18D9KAnTRoCywQQAvD_BwE&amp;amp;activityType=dayTrip&amp;amp;interestFilters=tc-48 Lan Ha Bay Day Tours]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sapa ?==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jacob'S+House+Hmong+Homestay/@22.3062377,103.9089166,14z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x36cd41a70fb9ea15:0x657fb4bd65bc7e0d!8m2!3d22.3062377!4d103.9089166!16s%2Fg%2F11ms3bmtnl?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D Homeastays]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://sites.google.com/view/myshomestaysapa/gallery?authuser=0 My's Homestay]&lt;br /&gt;
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Whenever they want to see us 3/18? 3/19? til we leave from SGN Sun 3/22 11:35Am. Wherever they want to go or have us meet them. Fly from Hanoi to ?&lt;br /&gt;
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==David and Tami==&lt;br /&gt;
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After fixing mistakes like booking a plane from SGN to Da Nang a day before we are to arrive in SGN ! and things like that... we are basically booked for major transportation and accommodations. Here's the  [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam main narrative] and a [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam_itinerary#Itinerary more detailed itinerary]&lt;br /&gt;
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1/12/26&lt;br /&gt;
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Our holiday was great, we started celebrating on the 12/15 third day of Chanukah and continued through Ari and Louisa's week visit that ended last Wednesday. Lots of time with Logan, Asher, Soleil, Louisa and Sulise playing together. &lt;br /&gt;
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Back to planning for Vietnam. Peri is overdosed watching young people drinking egg coffee in Youtube videos, but has done some good research about places in Quong Binh. Starting to see searches at Bookings.com with 'no rooms available` and `one room left` for hotels in Hanoi. I feel like it is getting to be time to nail down our itinerary.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is a summary of what we are currently thinking. A more descriptive version is on the [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam wiki].&lt;br /&gt;
* After arriving at SGN at 10:35Am on 3/3, we do our best to get on a 3:15 flight to Da Nang. Maybe e-visa or FastTrack will help?&lt;br /&gt;
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Hoi An/ Da Nang&lt;br /&gt;
* We either set up a base of our `chill at the beach` phase near  My Khe beach in the city or An Bang beach in Hoi An. My Khe might have better body surfing but either could be flat. &lt;br /&gt;
* Then we play it by ear, or play it by waves, at the beach if waves, otherwise snorkel around Son Tra Peninsula. Or take an overnight trip to Cham Island and hop a ride on a snorkeling boat there. Maybe a cooking class and likely an evening in oldtown Hoi An.&lt;br /&gt;
* Get to the Da Nang train station for a morning train&lt;br /&gt;
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Quong Binh&lt;br /&gt;
* Enjoy the train ride through Hai Van Pass and 6 1/2 hrs later end up in Dong Hoi&lt;br /&gt;
* Farm stays, caves, hiking, a limo ride away to Phong Ha and environs for a couple? of days&lt;br /&gt;
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To the North&lt;br /&gt;
* We could figure a way to have the next stop be Ninh Binh, but it may be better just to fly to Hanoi from Dong Hoi on the one daily flight at 10:25AM.&lt;br /&gt;
* Then we may be based in Hanoi until we fly down to wherever we are going to meet you.&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe a limo bus to Bich Dong, Ninh Binh, get a place to stay for a night or two.&lt;br /&gt;
* An overnight tour to Lan Ha Bay (instead of Ha Long Bay) Cat Ba Island?&lt;br /&gt;
* Another tour or maybe just a bus to Sapa for a night&lt;br /&gt;
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So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello to both of you, &lt;br /&gt;
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To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
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5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
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But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
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To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
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Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
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Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
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We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
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Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://vietnam.travel/place-to-go places to go]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/hai-long-homestay.html?aid=356980&amp;amp;label=gog235jc-10CAso9AFCEWhhaS1sb25nLWhvbWVzdGF5SDNYA2iYAogBAZgBM7gBB8gBDdgBA-gBAfgBAYgCAagCAbgC38ubywbAAgHSAiQzZTJjMDliNC1kYWM0LTQyNDEtYjA4MC02NDBlNDYzMjc0ZDHYAgHgAgE&amp;amp;sid=9c11db13c80aa6664bc9bfed6a158219&amp;amp;dest_id=-3715584&amp;amp;dest_type=city&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=1&amp;amp;hpos=1&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;srepoch=1768351225&amp;amp;srpvid=ab3004b081970369&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp; homestay in Cham Island ]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/homestay-tuan-thanh.html?label=metagha-link-MRUS-hotel-2409758_dev-desktop_los-1_bw-0_dow-Wednesday_defdate-1_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-public_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260114_ppt-_lp-2840_r-8778237271479827769&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-01-14&amp;amp;checkout=2026-01-15&amp;amp;dest_id=248247&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;srpvid=b0f108139a8f024d&amp;amp;srepoch=1768352979&amp;amp;matching_block_id=240975803_374324062_0_2_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title cham2]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [Vinh Khang Homestay 7/11 Thai Phien, Cam Pho, Hoi An ]&lt;br /&gt;
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Pu Luong and culture:&lt;br /&gt;
Beyond its natural beauty, Pu Luong preserves the rich cultural heritage of the Thai and Muong ethnic groups. Travelers can visit local villages such as Ban Don, Ban Hieu, and Kho Muong, join traditional weaving workshops, enjoy Thai folk dances, savor ethnic cuisine, and stay in rustic homestays nestled in the forest.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.jointcommission.org/en/about-us/recognizing-excellence/find-accredited-international-organizations?rfkid_7:content_filters=country:eq:Vietnam&amp;amp;rfkid_7:content_page=1&amp;amp;rfkid_7:content_limit=100&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, traditional tourism villages make excellent stops along the way: Bat Trang Ceramic Village with its centuries-old pottery craft. Tan Hoa Village and Bong Lai Valley in Quang Tri offer tranquil scenery. In addition, Tra Que Village in Hoi An is famous for its organic vegetable gardens and hands-on local cooking experiences. These destinations are easily combined into a Pu Luong itinerary, enriching the trip with diverse cultural and nature experiences Where to get medical care]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-embassy-hanoi.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768520042&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1327426201_405337745_2_1_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title#availability hotel in Old Quarter Hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/viet-hai-village-l199600/ha-noi-2-days-lan-ha-bay-hiking-biking-kayakin-t1056800/?ranking_uuid=20ac8721-cf72-4ded-b44d-87ae07894f1a Lan Ha Bay 2day tour with pickup from Hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/nan-house.html?aid=355028&amp;amp;label=mkt123sc-bee451b0-d3cc-4517-8e19-022dcd10b4e5&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-11&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-13&amp;amp;dest_id=900056405&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=18&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;hpos=18&amp;amp;matching_block_id=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;nflt=hotelfacility%3D14&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396_243120370&amp;amp;srepoch=1768507256&amp;amp;srpvid=5f4c8b78a0a80672&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;#tab-main TamCoc Homestay]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/bridgo-home.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D216&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768519626&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1240430601_0_2_0_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title old town hanoi airbnb type]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-embassy-hanoi.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768520042&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1327426201_405337745_2_1_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title#availability hotel in old quarter hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/hanoi-bella-rosa-trendy.html?aid=356929&amp;amp;label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=247978&amp;amp;dest_type=hotel&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=3&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;hpos=3&amp;amp;matching_block_id=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309_310938796&amp;amp;srepoch=1768521823&amp;amp;srpvid=7ed9a42d205700c7&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;#tab-main hotel &amp;quot;close to lake]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==[[Vietnam itinerary]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
:[https://www.oanda.com/currency-converter/en/?from=VND&amp;amp;to=USD&amp;amp;amount=2629303 currency converter]&lt;br /&gt;
USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
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VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
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==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.cathaypacific.com/mb/#!/en_US/hub/F9SWXD Cathay pacific] flights/manage bookings&lt;br /&gt;
: Mckenna Timothy Scott Green 1914920514 u:857..., Ca...!&lt;br /&gt;
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Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong BOS-&amp;gt;HGK&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 30m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX811&lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City HGK-&amp;gt;SGN&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
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===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong SGN-&amp;gt;HGK&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
  2h 45m&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX766 &lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Boston HGK-&amp;gt;BOS&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
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==refs and tips==&lt;br /&gt;
====multiple services====&lt;br /&gt;
There are issues with online travel sites OTAs around customer service and refunds in case thing go wrong. Better off trying to book direct with the provider when possible. &lt;br /&gt;
* traveloka - Tami: easy booking with them.  &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.klook.com/search/result/?query=vietnam Klook]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.agoda.com Agoda flights and hotel]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.kiwi.com/us/?origin=dong-hoi-vietnam&amp;amp;destination=hanoi-vietnam&amp;amp;outboundDate=2026-03-10&amp;amp;inboundDate=no-return Kiwi]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== domestic air ====&lt;br /&gt;
:Tami: We use Vietjet, or bamboo airline&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.vietjetair.com/en VietJet]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.bambooairways.com/gl/en Bamboo Airways]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.vietnamairlines.com/us/en/ Vietnam Airlines]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== trains/buses/limos/grab ====&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://vietnam-railway.com/train/route/train-from-danang-to-hanoi#:~:text=The%20railway%20from%20Danang%20station,Danang%20to%20Hanoi%20or%20return). Vietnam Railway]&lt;br /&gt;
* grab -app installed&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://12go.tp.st/QWH4f43u?trs=277068&amp;amp;journey_id=BZT4c9v1cXWYg4Eqw83NK&amp;amp;trace_id=Zzdb1b20bfe85740a78829d1d-495575&amp;amp;promo_kind=tp_short&amp;amp;page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthesensiblefay.com%2Fblog%2Fvietnam-itinerary&amp;amp;product_type=tp_manual&amp;amp;install_type=partner 12Go]&lt;br /&gt;
==== accomodations ====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://agoda.tp.st/Fyn8Wh44?trs=277068&amp;amp;journey_id=X7kmt02BBZbPwG2Io490-&amp;amp;trace_id=Zzdb1b20bfe85740a78829d1d-495575&amp;amp;promo_kind=tp_short&amp;amp;page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthesensiblefay.com%2Fblog%2Fvietnam-itinerary&amp;amp;product_type=tp_manual&amp;amp;install_type=partner Agoda - filter travel sustainable or homestays]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== tours ====&lt;br /&gt;
==== blogs ====&lt;br /&gt;
* https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/332906624145754 hello vietnam -facebook]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/ reddit.com/r/VietNam/] [https://www.reddit.com/r/Vietnam_Tourism/  reddit.com/r/Vietnam_Tourism/]&lt;br /&gt;
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== todo ==&lt;br /&gt;
I am TIMOTHY MCKENNA Booking number 26KK202060695. I made a dumb mistake on my application. The flight from HKG to SGN actually arrives a day later 2026-03-04. Everything else is the same. Can I still use that voucher. Could you reissue if I cannot?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Tami:  I usually use fast track service to get through custom more quickly because depend on the day how much flights coming same time at airport especially night time .Wait long line was nightmare:( but still wait for luggage 🧳Let me know what you guys want I can arrange that. Time still far away not worries until early February&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.agoda.com/activities/detail?activityId=1433950&amp;amp;cityId=13170&amp;amp;site_id=1920321&amp;amp;tag=7f4af76c-9b20-4329-82c5-d385849386a4&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=20985639569&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAApWUCBK20VvmNb37TvMvb6hVWSm9N&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiA1JLLBhCDARIsAAVfy7jaey33fdAcmgYsPABJIBOBhwcXt4IiEvapW9KqtVTrtQQXEc2WTa4aAuTREALw_wcB&amp;amp;cid=1920321&amp;amp;enrichedOfferId=2140953&amp;amp;pax=8_2&amp;amp;offerOptionId=0&amp;amp;travelDate=2026-03-03 fast track Agoda $15.23] &amp;amp;check;&lt;br /&gt;
* know what Vietnam banks work with our ATM's EasternBank Rockland Trust are SUM, &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://evisa.gov.vn/ visa requirements] [https://evisa.xuatnhapcanh.gov.vn/trang-chu-ttdt National Portal on Immigration] &amp;amp;check;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://safetywing.com/?referenceID=26014883&amp;amp;utm_source=26014883&amp;amp;utm_medium=Ambassador travel insurance]&lt;br /&gt;
* e-sim [https://vietteltelecom.vn/tin-tuc/chi-tiet/buy-viettel-esim-in-vietnam-price-how-to-buy/10616196 how to buy at airport] Viettel: International Terminal: Arrival Hall, after baggage claim and customs exit. Official Viettel kiosks always display the signature red and white Viettel logo, often alongside phrases such as “Tourist SIM,” “Viettel eSIM”. The entire process usually takes less than 10 minutes, ensuring you can go online right away. SD135T	30 days	VND 135,000	5GB per day&lt;br /&gt;
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https://vietnamnomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Map-of-railway-stations-in-Vietnam-new.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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=senior travel tips=&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Weather and Climate:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnam’s weather varies a lot depending on the region and month. &lt;br /&gt;
December to March, &lt;br /&gt;
North   (Hanoi, Ha Long Bay, Ninh Binh) can be cool 53-64°F so pack a light jacket. &lt;br /&gt;
Central (Da Nang, Hoi An, Hue) is mild and pleasant&lt;br /&gt;
South   (Ho Chi Minh City, Mekong Delta) stays warm and humid-avoid midday outdoor activities           to prevent exhaustion or dehydration&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Accommodation:&lt;br /&gt;
Choose accommodations with elevators, air conditioning. &lt;br /&gt;
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3. Transportation:&lt;br /&gt;
Use private car services or ride apps like Grab, where you can travel comfortably with air conditioning. For longer distances, domestic flights or trains with sleeper cabins are great options just book early for convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
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4. Sightseeing:&lt;br /&gt;
Stick to accessible attractions with minimal walking or steps. Many famous spots like the War Remnants Museum, Ben Thanh Market (HCMC), Hoi An Ancient Town, and Hanoi’s Old Quarter can be enjoyed at a relaxed pace. &lt;br /&gt;
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5. Health and Safety:&lt;br /&gt;
Make sure to stay hydrated, use sunscreen and a hat, and takes short breaks during the day. It’s a good idea to bring any prescription medications and a doctor’s note, and to check if travel insurance covers medical emergencies abroad. Hospitals in major cities like Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City have international clinics with English-speaking staff.&lt;br /&gt;
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6. Food and Hydration:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnamese food is delicious but can sometimes be oily or spicy. Choose restaurants with good hygiene or those catering to tourists. Always drink bottled or filtered water.&lt;br /&gt;
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7. Rest and Schedule:&lt;br /&gt;
Plan shorter days with breaks in cafés or shaded areas. Many older travelers enjoy Vietnam’s slower, relaxed rhythm watching daily life from a riverside café is often just as memorable as sightseeing.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://tonkin-travel.com/vietnam-tour-for-seniors/ itinerary for seniors]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 1. Da Nang / Hoi An =&lt;br /&gt;
=====Wed3/4 - Mon3/9 [https://www.google.com/maps/@15.9747255,108.2502142,12z?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D region map]=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== air:(70-82°F), water(77°F), dry=====&lt;br /&gt;
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We start the trip by flying right into Danang sometime after our flight arrives in SGN at 10:35AM. They say it takes 3-4 hours to clear customs and get to the domestic terminal. We are on a Vietnam Air VN134 3:15 flight so it could be tight. Getting an e-visa and FastTrack That might help. When we arrive in Da Nang we look for out Limo `Peri and Tim` to Hoi An'.&lt;br /&gt;
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The attraction is a few days on the beach,   [https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species snorkeling] and possibly body [https://thesurfatlas.com/vietnam-surf/surfing-in-danang/ surfing].&lt;br /&gt;
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The limo takes us to Hoi An, An Bang Beach, The Watermark Beachside Hotel Wed 3/4 - Fri 3/6 for 2 nights. From there we could maybe bicycle 5.2km(3.1mi) into town for an evening or take a [https://www.klook.com/activity/9185-tra-que-village-cooking-class-hoi-an/ Farm Cooking Class]. Or catch a show in Hoi An [https://www.facebook.com/reel/1282399736968768 Memories show]. there is a museum [https://blisshoian.com/news/tan-ky-oid-house/ Tan Ky ancestral house]&lt;br /&gt;
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Early on Friday morning we head to Cham Island and Tuan Thanh Homestay. Our plan is to spend a day on the island. Then, the next morning we will go out on the dock and try to get on the [https://tigerfishdivers.com/ Tigerfish] tour to snorkel for a day. Hopefully they will give us a ride back to Hoi An when the day is done. &lt;br /&gt;
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When we return from the island that afternoon/evening we could visit oldtown heading back to Da Nang sometime on Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
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We will arrive in Da Nang and stay at Sala Danang Beach Hotel Sat 3/7 - Mon 3/9 for another day at the beach, surfing or snorkeling. &lt;br /&gt;
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On Mon 3/9 we get on a train TN4 to Dong Hoi, getting to the station by 6:30AM. &lt;br /&gt;
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===[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Da Nang Snorkeling]===&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
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Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. [https://tigerfishdivers.com/ Tigerfish] are recommended snorkel tour operators.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
=====warm, sunny weather, clear skies, calm seas,(81-86°F)(water77-88°F)=====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cham+Islands/@15.9561378,108.4954196,14.75z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x31426da8c0c58939:0x9ba2c3cff0f65060!8m2!3d15.9415516!4d108.4810261!16s%2Fm%2F05zx4dc?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map]&lt;br /&gt;
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You should [https://hoabinhtourist.com/en/blog/hoi-an-to-cham-island-ferry#:~:text=For%20a%20budget-friendly%20route%2C%20take%20the%20wooden,and%20round-trip%20tickets%20cost%20350%2C000%E2%80%93400%2C000%20VND%20(~$15%E2%80%9317). go there] and [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-coral-homestay-amp-pub.html?label=mkt123sc-d1b0b225-78d9-4246-82be-a3952e943b35&amp;amp;aid=355028&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-06&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-07&amp;amp;dest_id=248247&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;srpvid=4fca247295af0409&amp;amp;srepoch=1768021887&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1215748202_421959470_0_0_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title stay one night], rent a scooter and visit the beaches, visit Ray Ong Bang. Then the next morning do a snorkeling tour with [https://tigerfishdivers.com Tigerfish] and catch a ride with them back to Hoi An. They pick up and drop off customers in Hoi An and take them over to Cham on a catamaran so you get a nice boat ride. They have to make a stop on Cham (to check in with the local authorities and they have to check out later, too) before taking everyone to the snorkel/diving sites. So if you are already on Cham, you avoid the early wake up in Hoi An. They'll pick you up around 9:15am on Cham. They finish with lunch on Chong beach so you can skip visiting that beach by yourself as you'll get that with them [https://www.facebook.com/groups/152330905406162/posts/1715095659129671/ facebook post -Josephine Cong]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND ($20-28)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other Things to do in Hoi An===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Local Food====&lt;br /&gt;
* Cao Lau- chewy, yellowish noodles made with lye water and ash from a specific well,  with pork, herbs, bean sprouts, and crispy croutons, and a small amount of rich, savory broth&lt;br /&gt;
* White Rose Dumplings - rice paper wrappers shaped like roses, with minced shrimp and pork, steamed and topped with crispy fried shallots, served with a savory-sweet dipping sauce.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Classes====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.pelago.com/en-SG/activity/pl5vxotc7-bamboo-craft-workshop-with-souvenir-in-hoi-an-hoi-an/ Bamboo crafts]11 min by car from AnBang Beach&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-making-lantern-with-local-people-in-hoi-an-oldtown-t461469/?ranking_uuid=3cee3d96-5b52-44a5-9ca3-71810db35c99 lanterns][https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-foldable-lantern-making-class-with-local-family-t739461/ foldaable lanterns]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-wood-carving-class-with-village-master-artisan-t586826/?ranking_uuid=3cee3d96-5b52-44a5-9ca3-71810db35c99 wood carving]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.klook.com/activity/9185-tra-que-village-cooking-class-hoi-an/ cooking class]&lt;br /&gt;
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====tours====&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/hoi-an-l831/hoi-an-biking-river-islands-village-crafts-private-tour-t517962/ Mat weaving, paper making bike tour]&lt;br /&gt;
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====museums/shows====&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://blisshoian.com/news/tan-ky-oid-house/ Tan Ky ancestral house]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.facebook.com/reel/1282399736968768 Memories performance]&lt;br /&gt;
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=2. Quong Binh - Phong Nha=&lt;br /&gt;
=====highs(80-84°F) lows(67-68°F), moderate sunshine, lower humidity, and minimal rain=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== Mon 3/9 - Tue 3/10=====&lt;br /&gt;
==== capitol: Đồng Hới arriving 13:30 TN4 ====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng+B%C3%ACnh,+Vietnam/@18.974051,104.108037,7z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x3138b0f638296f2d:0x901f872e6223598f!8m2!3d17.4627582!4d106.2522143!16zL20vMDdsX3h2?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D Province] in in central Vietnam, 4 1/hrs limo/bus, 6 1/2hr train, 270 Km (162 mi) from Da Nang.  The city is a base for accessing the Phong Nha-Kẻ Bàng National Park, featuring mountainous jungle and many limestone caves including the massive Sơn Đoòng Cave.&lt;br /&gt;
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by Train:&lt;br /&gt;
* Hai Van Pass (Da Nang to Hue): This is the undisputed highlight, considered one of the world's most scenic rail routes. You'll see mountains plunging into the sea, secluded beaches, and tunnels, with the train seeming to hang between ocean and sky.&lt;br /&gt;
* Right Side for Sea Views: As the train travels north from Da Nang, the ocean and coastline will be on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
* Check Train Layouts: Some sources suggest seats in the first or fourth carriages, or seats facing forward, but it can vary.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/ Phuong Nha An An Homestay Mon 3/9 - Tue 3/10]====&lt;br /&gt;
At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
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They are happy to provide pick up transfer from Dong hoi train station to our homestay with best rate 450.000vnd`&lt;br /&gt;
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===Phong Nha===&lt;br /&gt;
In Quong Binh province, on Con river northwest of Dong Hoi, between Da Nang and Hanoi, 312 km (187 mi) from da Nang. Famous for caves. Tami recommended Son Doong cave. May be too expensive and too much geared to fit and rugged 'adventurers': [https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/complete-guide-phong-nha travel guide] [https://bea-adventurous.com/phong-nha-2/#Best_Things_To_Do_In_Phong_Nha_The_Expanded_Version Best thing to do Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
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What to Expect:&lt;br /&gt;
* Nature Immersion: Lush greenery, rivers, streams, and jungle sounds.&lt;br /&gt;
* Local Cuisine: Fresh, locally sourced ingredients, often from the farm itself.&lt;br /&gt;
* Activities: Exploring caves (Phong Nha, Paradise Cave), ziplining, relaxing, and participating in farm life.&lt;br /&gt;
* Eco-Focus: Many places emphasize sustainability and environmental education. &lt;br /&gt;
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We leave to get on the Overnight Lotus Express train - Dong Hoi -&amp;gt; Ninh Binh Tue 3/10 11:45PM. Travel to station to be arranged.&lt;br /&gt;
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=3. Ninh Binh=&lt;br /&gt;
===== Wed 3/11 - Fri 3/13=====&lt;br /&gt;
===== (64°F to 77°F), occasional light rain=====&lt;br /&gt;
Arriving in Ninh Binh from Dong Hoi @ 9:15Am on the SE20. We will get picked up.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Tam Coc====&lt;br /&gt;
Two nights at Nan House - Tam Coc [https://secure.booking.com/inbox/partner-chat?vertical=accommodation&amp;amp;external_id=5919459883&amp;amp;bn=5919459883&amp;amp;product=post_booking&amp;amp;source=email&amp;amp;channel=partner_chat&amp;amp;opened_from_source=wakeup_email bookings.com]&lt;br /&gt;
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We will be arriving by train to Nimh Binh at 8:51 on Mar 11 on the SE20. Whats App +84 912 004 405 Nan House Tam Coc Ha Nguyen, pickup at train station arranged Train SE20 150K. Asked if they could arrange departure transport to Pu Luong once we are there. They have laundry services.&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/images/2/2e/NinhBinhAttractionns.png&lt;br /&gt;
===[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/things-to-do-in-ninh-binh/ Nimh Binh Attractions]===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Trang An Boat Tour (300k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
* you don't book ahead of time. You just go into the ticket office, choose which route you want to go, pay, and they give you the ticket right there and then. Simple as that.&lt;br /&gt;
* more immersive than Tam Coc experience with clearer water, towering limestone mountains, and diverse caves. * Boats usually wait for four tourists before departing.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tours last about 2.5 to 3 hours and include stops where you can disembark to visit ancient temples and pagodas. &lt;br /&gt;
* There are three different routes; Route 3 (which includes the over 1km long Dot Cave) is a popular choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/bich-dong-pagoda/ Bich Dong Pagoda] ====&lt;br /&gt;
The pagoda is just a pleasant 3.2km ~2mi bicycle ride form Naan House Tam Coc through rice fields and villages. Early morning (7:30) is the time to visit to avoid crowds.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/bai-dinh-pagoda/ Bai Dinh Pagoda Complex] ====&lt;br /&gt;
(30k to 120k VND depending on the tram package you take)&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.discoverninhbinh.com/thung-nham-bird-garden/ Thung Nham Birds/Gardens]====&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Nan+House+Tam+coc,+Tam+C%E1%BB%91c,+Ninh+H%E1%BA%A3i,+Ninh+B%C3%ACnh,+Vietnam/Thung+Nham+Flower+Paradise,+Khu+du+l%E1%BB%8Bch+sinh+th%C3%A1i+Thung+Nham,+Th%C3%B4n+h%E1%BA%A3i+Nham,+Hoa+L%C6%B0,+Ninh+B%C3%ACnh+430000,+Vietnam/@20.2159051,105.9040457,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x31367bb91da95bd9:0x405a6b16d8ae5956!2m2!1d105.9398133!2d20.2085488!1m5!1m1!1s0x31367b0014a46ce3:0xb55592151cb7397b!2m2!1d105.888811!2d20.2231556!3e0!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDExMy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map from naan house] 8.2km ~5 mi&lt;br /&gt;
* best from 4- 6 pm&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hoa Lu Old Town Night Market====&lt;br /&gt;
not sure if it is worth it&lt;br /&gt;
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====Động Am Tiên (25k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hoa Lu Ancient Capital (20k VND)====&lt;br /&gt;
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===Activities Schedule===&lt;br /&gt;
* Wed 3/11, afternoon: We should be in Tam Coc before 11:00AM, time for an afternoon activity, perhaps Trang An Boat tour with some temple stops off the boat. Back to Naan house by 3:45 4-6 best time for bird sanctuary&lt;br /&gt;
* Thu 3/12 7:00: Bike to Bich Dong for morning. Or Fri AM&lt;br /&gt;
* Thu 3/12 afternoon/evening TBD&lt;br /&gt;
* Fri 3/13 We will take a Limo from Tan Coc to Pu Luong, TBA, messaged Nan House about arranging limo.&lt;br /&gt;
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=4. Pu Luong=&lt;br /&gt;
https://izitour.com/media/ckeditor/pu-luong-location.webp&lt;br /&gt;
==== Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15====&lt;br /&gt;
=====lows:17°C(63°F) highs:24-30°C (75-86°F) some humidity and maybe light showers.=====&lt;br /&gt;
It is about 144km 86mi from Hanoi. Going to Pu Luong right from Nimh Binh. It is only 106mi. (170km). Will ask nan House first, then Inh La Home.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at Inh La Home Pu Luong Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15&lt;br /&gt;
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====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/ninh-binh-to-pu-luong/ Other Transport Co.s]====&lt;br /&gt;
* Pu Luong Express: Daily departure at either 7.30 am or 1.30 pm from Ninh Binh, $20 each way per person&lt;br /&gt;
* The Long Travel: Daily depart at 7:30 am and arrive to Pu Luong at around 11:00 am, minivans seat (16 passengers); $20 each way per person&lt;br /&gt;
* Download offline maps on your phone, you are in the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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===In Pu Luong===&lt;br /&gt;
Arriving by Limo TBA, sometime Fri 3/13.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at Inh La Home Pu Luong Fri 3/13 - Sun 3/15. Excited to go to Don village Maket on Sunday from 5:00 - 8:00&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Doan+Market/@20.4469685,105.1795457,15z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x313402f23e86f21d:0xf9b6d702618ce85!8m2!3d20.4470998!4d105.1827192!16s%2Fg%2F11b6lm_m9q!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDExMy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D topo map]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=119t9uAwlBqOgRyuRBXGTzjlhcu4SPCA&amp;amp;femb=1&amp;amp;ll=20.470469600000012%2C105.22223180000003&amp;amp;z=13 map]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Easy walks====&lt;br /&gt;
* There are numerous small, flat roads  and pathways in Don village suitable for short, leisurely walks. You can wander through picturesque landscapes and past bamboo forests at a gentle pace, enjoying the quiet rhythm of local life.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pho Doan to Hieu Village (Partial Route): The section from Pho Doan market has been noted as a suitable easy, flat route for seniors. While the full 6 km route takes about 2 hours, walkers can cover shorter segments tailored to their comfort levels.&lt;br /&gt;
* Bang Village to Kho Muong Village (Partial Route): This route offers gentle trails and views of rice fields and mountains. You can explore parts of the trail to enjoy the scenery and visit the Kho Muong Cave (Bat Cave) area, though the full route is longer.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ban Cong to Bamboo Raft Area: A leisurely 2.5 km walk from Ban Cong leads to the largest stream, where you can see giant water wheels. The paths here are relatively easy and offer beautiful views along the river, with an optional bamboo rafting experience. Walks] &lt;br /&gt;
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=====[https://www.vietnamtravelsonline.com/travel-blog/pu-luong-nature-reserve/ Pu Luong Nature Reserve]=====&lt;br /&gt;
* Trek through terraced rice fields and bamboo forests&lt;br /&gt;
* Stay in a traditional stilt house in a Thai ethnic village&lt;br /&gt;
* Visit the impressive water wheels along the streams&lt;br /&gt;
* Join a cooking class to learn about local cuisine&lt;br /&gt;
* Take a dip in the cool mountain streams&lt;br /&gt;
* Enjoy sunrise or sunset views over the valley&lt;br /&gt;
* Pho Doan Mkt Thurs and Sun arrive before 8a&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.colorfuljourneys.com/articles/where-to-stay-in-pu-luong Guide to Pu Luong’s Villages]&lt;br /&gt;
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*  [https://12go.asia/en/travel/hanoi/pu-luong?sub_id=586f06d79d1b4710a8b12e02a-369753&amp;amp;utm_source=travelpayouts&amp;amp;vehclasses_tab=van Book a van to Hanoi here]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 5. Hanoi - Lan Ha Bay=&lt;br /&gt;
==== Sun 3/15 - Wed 3/18 ====&lt;br /&gt;
===== Hanoi:lows: 62°F-68°F,highs:72°F-78°F, humid, occasional showers.=====&lt;br /&gt;
From Pu Luong, we will take a limo to Hanoi. Arriving sometime Sunday. There we will likely take our first tour, to La Ha Bay. Sunday evening through Monday, explore Hanoi. Tuesday, 5:-00 pickup to tour Lan Ha Bay. Wednesday, Checkout to airport and David, Tami and Liam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Staying at [https://secure.booking.com/confirmation.en-us.html?label=mkt123sc-56a0b79f-f1c7-485e-bef5-cf9c86c7a787&amp;amp;sid=e58453c7525d7f280addd1aebc7d5c5c&amp;amp;aid=355028&amp;amp;auth_key=cigyAb4FBcAXXthw&amp;amp;source=mytrips Bella Rosa Trendy Hotel &amp;amp; Spa] Sun 3/15 - Wed 3/18&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551994105220&amp;amp;sk=reels_tab Tara Travel Co] might be good for suggesting activities.&lt;br /&gt;
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== 5a. Lan Ha Bay==&lt;br /&gt;
===== highs:(70-77°F), 8-9 hours of sunshine. (water:70-72°F) =====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lan+Ha+Bay/@20.8012072,106.9938087,12z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x314a5ac42efd423d:0xcabdcf2fe3423885!8m2!3d20.7582934!4d107.0893798!16s%2Fg%2F11gzd8tr9?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D map of Lab Ha Bay]&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing is finalized, but booked  [https://www.getyourguide.com/booking/26B6GG2JSTESCW3Z1MCCED609MQXWVZI?partner_id=CD951&amp;amp;visitor_id=98CD991FD8A54490B94477A3D04AAD07&amp;amp;utm_source=getyourguide&amp;amp;utm_medium=email_transactional&amp;amp;utm_campaign=shopping_cart_confirmation_v2&amp;amp;utm_content=booking_summary_manage_booking_move_v3 Get Your Guide (app)] not paid yet Beka Travel Maya on whatsapp. Will automatically process on 3/14 unless cancelled. Other options for day tours are:[https://www.getyourguide.com/-l90401?cmp=ga&amp;amp;campaign_id=6657595134&amp;amp;adgroup_id=186717800769&amp;amp;target_id=kwd-310572425171&amp;amp;loc_physical_ms=9001992&amp;amp;match_type=e&amp;amp;ad_id=770039971193&amp;amp;keyword=lan+ha+bay+tours&amp;amp;ad_position=&amp;amp;feed_item_id=&amp;amp;placement=&amp;amp;device=c&amp;amp;assetgroup_id=&amp;amp;synthetic_keyword=lan+ha+bay+tours&amp;amp;partner_id=CD951&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=6657595134&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAjojLBhAlEiwAcjhrDj_FOqcFVYMaxdHT4MezVbDxX6mC4Ard22dsuk9tK94sE18D9KAnTRoCywQQAvD_BwE&amp;amp;activityType=dayTrip&amp;amp;interestFilters=tc-48 Lan Ha Bay Day Tours]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sapa ?==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jacob'S+House+Hmong+Homestay/@22.3062377,103.9089166,14z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x36cd41a70fb9ea15:0x657fb4bd65bc7e0d!8m2!3d22.3062377!4d103.9089166!16s%2Fg%2F11ms3bmtnl?entry=ttu&amp;amp;g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA2OUgBUAM%3D Homeastays]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://sites.google.com/view/myshomestaysapa/gallery?authuser=0 My's Homestay]&lt;br /&gt;
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= 6. Visit Tami, David and Liam in the South =&lt;br /&gt;
Whenever they want to see us 3/18? 3/19? til we leave from SGN Sun 3/22 11:35Am. Wherever they want to go or have us meet them. Fly from Hanoi to ?&lt;br /&gt;
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==David and Tami==&lt;br /&gt;
1/16/26&lt;br /&gt;
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After fixing mistakes like booking a plane from SGN to Da Nang a day before we are to arrive in SGN ! and things like that... we are basically booked for major transportation and accommodations. Here's the  [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam main narrative] and a [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam_itinerary#Itinerary more detailed itinerary]&lt;br /&gt;
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1/12/26&lt;br /&gt;
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Our holiday was great, we started celebrating on the 12/15 third day of Chanukah and continued through Ari and Louisa's week visit that ended last Wednesday. Lots of time with Logan, Asher, Soleil, Louisa and Sulise playing together. &lt;br /&gt;
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Back to planning for Vietnam. Peri is overdosed watching young people drinking egg coffee in Youtube videos, but has done some good research about places in Quong Binh. Starting to see searches at Bookings.com with 'no rooms available` and `one room left` for hotels in Hanoi. I feel like it is getting to be time to nail down our itinerary.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is a summary of what we are currently thinking. A more descriptive version is on the [https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam wiki].&lt;br /&gt;
* After arriving at SGN at 10:35Am on 3/3, we do our best to get on a 3:15 flight to Da Nang. Maybe e-visa or FastTrack will help?&lt;br /&gt;
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Hoi An/ Da Nang&lt;br /&gt;
* We either set up a base of our `chill at the beach` phase near  My Khe beach in the city or An Bang beach in Hoi An. My Khe might have better body surfing but either could be flat. &lt;br /&gt;
* Then we play it by ear, or play it by waves, at the beach if waves, otherwise snorkel around Son Tra Peninsula. Or take an overnight trip to Cham Island and hop a ride on a snorkeling boat there. Maybe a cooking class and likely an evening in oldtown Hoi An.&lt;br /&gt;
* Get to the Da Nang train station for a morning train&lt;br /&gt;
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Quong Binh&lt;br /&gt;
* Enjoy the train ride through Hai Van Pass and 6 1/2 hrs later end up in Dong Hoi&lt;br /&gt;
* Farm stays, caves, hiking, a limo ride away to Phong Ha and environs for a couple? of days&lt;br /&gt;
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To the North&lt;br /&gt;
* We could figure a way to have the next stop be Ninh Binh, but it may be better just to fly to Hanoi from Dong Hoi on the one daily flight at 10:25AM.&lt;br /&gt;
* Then we may be based in Hanoi until we fly down to wherever we are going to meet you.&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe a limo bus to Bich Dong, Ninh Binh, get a place to stay for a night or two.&lt;br /&gt;
* An overnight tour to Lan Ha Bay (instead of Ha Long Bay) Cat Ba Island?&lt;br /&gt;
* Another tour or maybe just a bus to Sapa for a night&lt;br /&gt;
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12/12/25&lt;br /&gt;
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So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello to both of you, &lt;br /&gt;
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To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
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5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
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But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
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To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
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Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
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Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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nice baby&lt;br /&gt;
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Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
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We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
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Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://vietnam.travel/place-to-go places to go]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/hai-long-homestay.html?aid=356980&amp;amp;label=gog235jc-10CAso9AFCEWhhaS1sb25nLWhvbWVzdGF5SDNYA2iYAogBAZgBM7gBB8gBDdgBA-gBAfgBAYgCAagCAbgC38ubywbAAgHSAiQzZTJjMDliNC1kYWM0LTQyNDEtYjA4MC02NDBlNDYzMjc0ZDHYAgHgAgE&amp;amp;sid=9c11db13c80aa6664bc9bfed6a158219&amp;amp;dest_id=-3715584&amp;amp;dest_type=city&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=1&amp;amp;hpos=1&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;srepoch=1768351225&amp;amp;srpvid=ab3004b081970369&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp; homestay in Cham Island ]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/homestay-tuan-thanh.html?label=metagha-link-MRUS-hotel-2409758_dev-desktop_los-1_bw-0_dow-Wednesday_defdate-1_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-public_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260114_ppt-_lp-2840_r-8778237271479827769&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-01-14&amp;amp;checkout=2026-01-15&amp;amp;dest_id=248247&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;srpvid=b0f108139a8f024d&amp;amp;srepoch=1768352979&amp;amp;matching_block_id=240975803_374324062_0_2_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title cham2]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [Vinh Khang Homestay 7/11 Thai Phien, Cam Pho, Hoi An ]&lt;br /&gt;
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Pu Luong and culture:&lt;br /&gt;
Beyond its natural beauty, Pu Luong preserves the rich cultural heritage of the Thai and Muong ethnic groups. Travelers can visit local villages such as Ban Don, Ban Hieu, and Kho Muong, join traditional weaving workshops, enjoy Thai folk dances, savor ethnic cuisine, and stay in rustic homestays nestled in the forest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Health:&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.jointcommission.org/en/about-us/recognizing-excellence/find-accredited-international-organizations?rfkid_7:content_filters=country:eq:Vietnam&amp;amp;rfkid_7:content_page=1&amp;amp;rfkid_7:content_limit=100&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, traditional tourism villages make excellent stops along the way: Bat Trang Ceramic Village with its centuries-old pottery craft. Tan Hoa Village and Bong Lai Valley in Quang Tri offer tranquil scenery. In addition, Tra Que Village in Hoi An is famous for its organic vegetable gardens and hands-on local cooking experiences. These destinations are easily combined into a Pu Luong itinerary, enriching the trip with diverse cultural and nature experiences. Where to get medical care]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-embassy-hanoi.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768520042&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1327426201_405337745_2_1_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title#availability hotel in Old Quarter Hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.getyourguide.com/viet-hai-village-l199600/ha-noi-2-days-lan-ha-bay-hiking-biking-kayakin-t1056800/?ranking_uuid=20ac8721-cf72-4ded-b44d-87ae07894f1a Lan Ha Bay 2day tour with pickup from Hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/nan-house.html?aid=355028&amp;amp;label=mkt123sc-bee451b0-d3cc-4517-8e19-022dcd10b4e5&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-11&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-13&amp;amp;dest_id=900056405&amp;amp;dest_type=landmark&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=18&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;hpos=18&amp;amp;matching_block_id=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396&amp;amp;nflt=hotelfacility%3D14&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=534714205_237599644_0_41_0_636396_243120370&amp;amp;srepoch=1768507256&amp;amp;srpvid=5f4c8b78a0a80672&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;#tab-main TamCoc Homestay]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/inh-la-home.html?aid=356929&amp;amp;label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-8943270_dev-desktop_los-2_bw-56_dow-Friday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-public_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260313_ppt-_lp-2840_r-1211404217458449427&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-13&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-15&amp;amp;dest_id=8943270&amp;amp;dest_type=hotel&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=1&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;hpos=1&amp;amp;matching_block_id=894327001_364253169_2_41_0&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=894327001_364253169_2_41_0__240000000&amp;amp;srepoch=1768517994&amp;amp;srpvid=b6e9a1ad54240545&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp; accomodation in ban don near pho doan]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/bridgo-home.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D216&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768519626&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1240430601_0_2_0_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title old town hanoi airbnb type]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/the-embassy-hanoi.html?label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;aid=356929&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=0&amp;amp;dest_type=latlong&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Btdb%3D5%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;srpvid=3832a46de98e0222&amp;amp;srepoch=1768520042&amp;amp;matching_block_id=1327426201_405337745_2_1_0&amp;amp;atlas_src=sr_iw_title#availability hotel in old quarter hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/hanoi-bella-rosa-trendy.html?aid=356929&amp;amp;label=metagha-link-LUUS-hotel-247978_dev-desktop_los-3_bw-58_dow-Sunday_defdate-0_room-0_gstadt-2_rateid-ig_aud-0_gacid-21404666577_mcid-10_ppa-0_clrid-0_ad-1_gstkid-0_checkin-20260315_ppt-GBd_lp-2840_r-15166574047596499325&amp;amp;sid=e6c30557ef9f897ed3436390b2da073a&amp;amp;all_sr_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;checkin=2026-03-15&amp;amp;checkout=2026-03-18&amp;amp;dest_id=247978&amp;amp;dest_type=hotel&amp;amp;dist=0&amp;amp;group_adults=2&amp;amp;group_children=0&amp;amp;hapos=3&amp;amp;highlighted_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;hpos=3&amp;amp;matching_block_id=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309&amp;amp;nflt=oos%3D1%3Bht_id%3D204&amp;amp;no_rooms=1&amp;amp;req_adults=2&amp;amp;req_children=0&amp;amp;room1=A%2CA&amp;amp;sb_price_type=total&amp;amp;sr_order=popularity&amp;amp;sr_pri_blocks=315432005_423192517_2_0_0_528309_310938796&amp;amp;srepoch=1768521823&amp;amp;srpvid=7ed9a42d205700c7&amp;amp;type=total&amp;amp;ucfs=1&amp;amp;#tab-main hotel &amp;quot;close to lake]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Scrapbook&amp;diff=13936</id>
		<title>Scrapbook</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Scrapbook&amp;diff=13936"/>
		<updated>2025-12-27T21:11:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath has been called sentimental, socialist. Today's story is so much more sophisticated. It is a story that can't be told. Should you try you are seen as naive, lacking the advanced mathematical models through which true understanding is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I manage my family's office subscriptions. My wife, activated her subscription years ago and has been using her onedrive with 1TB. But she never installed word, excel et al on her mac or other devices. When she tries to now, accounts.microsoft.com shows the Microsoft Storage but wants her to pay for office apps. there was no way to re-send a link from my accounts subscriptions page. By web advice, I took her off subscriptions and resent a link to her. When she clicked on the email it takes her to her accounts page. when she clicks `join` It says 'Looks like invitation link is not working` `one more step to go` `Ask organizers to go to subscription tab and start sharing. I am the organizer. There is no such option on the subscriptions page&lt;br /&gt;
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I have done this twice. Last time with your predecessor&lt;br /&gt;
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https://account.microsoft.com/family/accept-partner/error?email=cGVyaW1ja2VubmFAeWFob28uY29t&amp;amp;role=User&amp;amp;intenttype=AMCSubscription&amp;amp;invitationtoken=AgEBAAAAdnURf3R1c7mSXK41wjKW%252bYJWH74ae4U1Iikk3Agl7aEt6o3pUTT5mdHGVUBFnWr19o6Jd87e4NT5yrhUsNYJPotiVfo7cM3%252b8mg6luTTiFncvj7VsUyvEO4m%252bz98qYQ%252bGLoaxyuH5aonBn2pKJnuK48zahDsdbM0YrJ7bc6BcOkOPn8mCK%252bY%252fTux5rpudSclX9J%252bHSlmeVRB%252bxdRTRukLTeb47%252fXR%252bpCNPNmK12j6a%252fQYQBqWX28vlTghbhn%252feQLM8V5gX9yP%252b2dxiH7upLLvs%252b0mNFUtvsiwNr1G%252fBzFag%253d&amp;amp;c=wIoTSCCJhCKC&amp;amp;cobrandid=3bb6819b-b23b-4ce7-87e1-5a9bbfcc3325&amp;amp;invitationContextToken=AWYQVOJ6AdiMFWQEB5LltuglpXNXmXMTmNLtMM3KwxTlAfdHbuNn71eZ2P7qwGSIKGpYlOaxjpGjFmTCLOrJ4BUl3HAC%252fwjWLmwvXPwRduflb1vqzwUzRDaRGGzRQL8T6Wn%252b6GqBY0bUBBCizNa3bs0enOuGPus8Xocw4ejX6tvNePE3TDzme9S82VLe0E%252bomDXKlj1NlMxOGYrbShJF26k%253d&lt;br /&gt;
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She clicks login to join and logs in. when she clicks `join` It says 'Looks like invitation link is not working` `one more step to go` `Ask organizers to go to subscription tab and start sharing.&lt;br /&gt;
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You’re invited&lt;br /&gt;
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Timothy Mckenna invited you to join their family group.&lt;br /&gt;
Join now &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This invitation expires in 14 days. To decline this invitation, delete or ignore this email.&lt;br /&gt;
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Discover how a Microsoft family group can help you keep kids safer online, have fun together, and stay connected—even when you’re apart.&lt;br /&gt;
...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Scrapbook&amp;diff=13933</id>
		<title>Scrapbook</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Scrapbook&amp;diff=13933"/>
		<updated>2025-12-27T20:12:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath has been called sentimental, socialist. Today's story is so much more sophisticated. It is a story that can't be told. Should you try you are seen as naive, lacking the advanced mathematical models through which true understanding is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I manage my family's office subscriptions. My wife, activated her subscription years ago and has been using her onedrive with 1TB. But she never installed word, excel et al on her mac or other devices. When she tries to now, accounts.microsoft.com shows the Microsoft Storage but wants her to pay for office apps. there was no way to send another link from my accounts subscriptions page. By web advice, I took her off subscriptions and resent a link to her. When she clicked on the email it takes her to her accounts page. when she clicks `join` It says 'Looks like invitation link is not working` `one more step to go` `Ask organizers to go to subscription tab and start sharing. I am the organizer. There is no such option on the subscriptions page&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have done this twice. Las time with your predecessor&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://account.microsoft.com/family/accept-partner/error?email=cGVyaW1ja2VubmFAeWFob28uY29t&amp;amp;role=User&amp;amp;intenttype=AMCSubscription&amp;amp;invitationtoken=AgEBAAAAdnURf3R1c7mSXK41wjKW%252bYJWH74ae4U1Iikk3Agl7aEt6o3pUTT5mdHGVUBFnWr19o6Jd87e4NT5yrhUsNYJPotiVfo7cM3%252b8mg6luTTiFncvj7VsUyvEO4m%252bz98qYQ%252bGLoaxyuH5aonBn2pKJnuK48zahDsdbM0YrJ7bc6BcOkOPn8mCK%252bY%252fTux5rpudSclX9J%252bHSlmeVRB%252bxdRTRukLTeb47%252fXR%252bpCNPNmK12j6a%252fQYQBqWX28vlTghbhn%252feQLM8V5gX9yP%252b2dxiH7upLLvs%252b0mNFUtvsiwNr1G%252fBzFag%253d&amp;amp;c=wIoTSCCJhCKC&amp;amp;cobrandid=3bb6819b-b23b-4ce7-87e1-5a9bbfcc3325&amp;amp;invitationContextToken=AWYQVOJ6AdiMFWQEB5LltuglpXNXmXMTmNLtMM3KwxTlAfdHbuNn71eZ2P7qwGSIKGpYlOaxjpGjFmTCLOrJ4BUl3HAC%252fwjWLmwvXPwRduflb1vqzwUzRDaRGGzRQL8T6Wn%252b6GqBY0bUBBCizNa3bs0enOuGPus8Xocw4ejX6tvNePE3TDzme9S82VLe0E%252bomDXKlj1NlMxOGYrbShJF26k%253d&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Vietnam&amp;diff=13906</id>
		<title>Vietnam</title>
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		<updated>2025-12-15T02:57:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* transportation */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
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USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
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VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
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==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 30m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX811&lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
  2h 45m&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX766 &lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Boston&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
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==refs==&lt;br /&gt;
https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
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Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
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We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
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Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello to both of you, &lt;br /&gt;
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To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
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5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
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But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
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To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
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Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
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Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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nice baby&lt;br /&gt;
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So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
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=transportation=&lt;br /&gt;
[https://12go.asia/en/travel/hoi-an/phong-nha?gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=22889016948&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAADEdHW40-oIMM9eJ17A368L25hTFa&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAiA3fnJBhAgEiwAyqmY5UfekNDLYYDIALsD_bAytpOmv8Q3teGbM4inX0HcCTSaStb6wwhbeRoCRdoQAvD_BwE 12go]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://vietnam-railway.com/train/route/train-from-danang-to-hanoi#:~:text=The%20railway%20from%20Danang%20station,Danang%20to%20Hanoi%20or%20return). vietnam railway hoi an to hanoi]&lt;br /&gt;
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=senior travel tips=&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Weather and Climate:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnam’s weather varies a lot depending on the region and month. &lt;br /&gt;
December to March, &lt;br /&gt;
North   (Hanoi, Ha Long Bay, Ninh Binh) can be cool 53-64°F so pack a light jacket. &lt;br /&gt;
Central (Da Nang, Hoi An, Hue) is mild and pleasant&lt;br /&gt;
South   (Ho Chi Minh City, Mekong Delta) stays warm and humid-avoid midday outdoor activities           to prevent exhaustion or dehydration&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Accommodation:&lt;br /&gt;
Choose accommodations with elevators, air conditioning. &lt;br /&gt;
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3. Transportation:&lt;br /&gt;
Use private car services or ride apps like Grab, where you can travel comfortably with air conditioning. For longer distances, domestic flights or trains with sleeper cabins are great options just book early for convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
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4. Sightseeing:&lt;br /&gt;
Stick to accessible attractions with minimal walking or steps. Many famous spots like the War Remnants Museum, Ben Thanh Market (HCMC), Hoi An Ancient Town, and Hanoi’s Old Quarter can be enjoyed at a relaxed pace. &lt;br /&gt;
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5. Health and Safety:&lt;br /&gt;
Make sure to stay hydrated, use sunscreen and a hat, and takes short breaks during the day. It’s a good idea to bring any prescription medications and a doctor’s note, and to check if travel insurance covers medical emergencies abroad. Hospitals in major cities like Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City have international clinics with English-speaking staff.&lt;br /&gt;
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6. Food and Hydration:&lt;br /&gt;
Vietnamese food is delicious but can sometimes be oily or spicy. Choose restaurants with good hygiene or those catering to tourists. Always drink bottled or filtered water.&lt;br /&gt;
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7. Rest and Schedule:&lt;br /&gt;
Plan shorter days with breaks in cafés or shaded areas. Many older travelers enjoy Vietnam’s slower, relaxed rhythm watching daily life from a riverside café is often just as memorable as sightseeing.&lt;br /&gt;
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= Hanoi=&lt;br /&gt;
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= Nha Trang =&lt;br /&gt;
meh&lt;br /&gt;
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= Ho Chi Minh city =&lt;br /&gt;
meh, don't want to go to the post office, cathedral under repair, plaza w Ho Chi Minh statue, opera house or marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Quong Binh farms stay=&lt;br /&gt;
===Phong Nha===&lt;br /&gt;
[https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/complete-guide-phong-nha travel guide to phong nha]&lt;br /&gt;
===[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/ Phong Nha AnAn Homestay]===&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to An An Homestay – your family away from home in Phong Nha!&lt;br /&gt;
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At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chay Lap Farmstay==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Families, nature lovers, budget-conscious travelers&lt;br /&gt;
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Address: &lt;br /&gt;
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Rooms: Chay Lap Farmstay offers a variety of comfortable accommodations to suit different needs and budgets. Their Farm rooms are unique elevated bungalows surrounded by nature, while Garden rooms offer spacious terraces overlooking the gardens. Mountain rooms boast stunning views of the surrounding mountains.&lt;br /&gt;
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Food: Chay Lap Farmstay serves delicious meals prepared with fresh, local ingredients. Their restaurant offers a diverse menu of Vietnamese and Western dishes, catering to various dietary preferences. Guests can also enjoy cooking classes to learn how to prepare traditional Vietnamese cuisine.&lt;br /&gt;
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Activities: The farmstay offers a range of activities to keep guests entertained, including kayaking on the Chay River, swimming in the pool, cycling through the countryside, visiting local villages, and participating in cooking classes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Son Doong Bungalow==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Eco-conscious travelers, couples, nature enthusiasts&lt;br /&gt;
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Address: &lt;br /&gt;
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Rooms: Son Doong Bungalow offers charming bungalows nestled amidst the Phong Nha village. The bungalows are built with sustainable materials and equipped with basic amenities.&lt;br /&gt;
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Food: The bungalow serves delicious organic meals prepared with fresh, locally grown ingredients. Guests can also enjoy a variety of herbal teas and local beverages.&lt;br /&gt;
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Activities: The bungalow offers guided tours to explore the surrounding caves, waterfalls, and jungle trails. Guests can also participate in traditional Vietnamese cooking classes or learn about the local culture.&lt;br /&gt;
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= Da Nang / Hoi An=&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/670071045289016808?adults=2&amp;amp;check_in=2026-03-03&amp;amp;check_out=2026-03-09&amp;amp;location=Hoi%20An%2C%20Quang%20Nam%2C%20Vietnam&amp;amp;search_mode=regular_search&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1765311226_P3UybTaOzv9SuhoQ&amp;amp;previous_page_section_name=1001&amp;amp;federated_search_id=e35b5b12-897d-4321-8ed1-91d6bb968c0c a-bnb - hoi an -an bang beach $400/6nights1bd]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.klook.com/activity/137255-tra-que-vegetable-village-cooking-class-with-market-tour/#:~:text=A%20bit%20more%20explanation%20of,lush%20vegetation%20and%20blooming%20flowers Hoi An Farm Stay]&lt;br /&gt;
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==snorkeling==&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
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Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
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[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Vin wonders Da Nang snorkeling]&lt;br /&gt;
* Da Nang snorkeling tour at Son Tra Peninsula costs around 400,000 ($16)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
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USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
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VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
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==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 30m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX811&lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
  2h 45m&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX766 &lt;br /&gt;
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Hong Kong to Boston&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
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==refs==&lt;br /&gt;
https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
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Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
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We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
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Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello to both of you, &lt;br /&gt;
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To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
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5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
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But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
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To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
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Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
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Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
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nice baby&lt;br /&gt;
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So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Hanoi=&lt;br /&gt;
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= Nha Trang =&lt;br /&gt;
meh&lt;br /&gt;
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= Ho Chi Minh city =&lt;br /&gt;
meh, don't want to go to the post office, cathedral under repair, plaza w Ho Chi Minh statue, opera house or marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Quong Binh farms stay=&lt;br /&gt;
===Phong Nha===&lt;br /&gt;
[https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/complete-guide-phong-nha travel guide to phong nha]&lt;br /&gt;
===[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/ Phong Nha AnAn Homestay]===&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to An An Homestay – your family away from home in Phong Nha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chay Lap Farmstay==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Families, nature lovers, budget-conscious travelers&lt;br /&gt;
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Address: &lt;br /&gt;
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Rooms: Chay Lap Farmstay offers a variety of comfortable accommodations to suit different needs and budgets. Their Farm rooms are unique elevated bungalows surrounded by nature, while Garden rooms offer spacious terraces overlooking the gardens. Mountain rooms boast stunning views of the surrounding mountains.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food: Chay Lap Farmstay serves delicious meals prepared with fresh, local ingredients. Their restaurant offers a diverse menu of Vietnamese and Western dishes, catering to various dietary preferences. Guests can also enjoy cooking classes to learn how to prepare traditional Vietnamese cuisine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Activities: The farmstay offers a range of activities to keep guests entertained, including kayaking on the Chay River, swimming in the pool, cycling through the countryside, visiting local villages, and participating in cooking classes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Son Doong Bungalow==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Eco-conscious travelers, couples, nature enthusiasts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Address: &lt;br /&gt;
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Rooms: Son Doong Bungalow offers charming bungalows nestled amidst the Phong Nha village. The bungalows are built with sustainable materials and equipped with basic amenities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food: The bungalow serves delicious organic meals prepared with fresh, locally grown ingredients. Guests can also enjoy a variety of herbal teas and local beverages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Activities: The bungalow offers guided tours to explore the surrounding caves, waterfalls, and jungle trails. Guests can also participate in traditional Vietnamese cooking classes or learn about the local culture.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Da Nang / Hoi An=&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/670071045289016808?adults=2&amp;amp;check_in=2026-03-03&amp;amp;check_out=2026-03-09&amp;amp;location=Hoi%20An%2C%20Quang%20Nam%2C%20Vietnam&amp;amp;search_mode=regular_search&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1765311226_P3UybTaOzv9SuhoQ&amp;amp;previous_page_section_name=1001&amp;amp;federated_search_id=e35b5b12-897d-4321-8ed1-91d6bb968c0c a-bnb - hoi an -an bang beach $400/6nights1bd]&lt;br /&gt;
6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.klook.com/activity/137255-tra-que-vegetable-village-cooking-class-with-market-tour/#:~:text=A%20bit%20more%20explanation%20of,lush%20vegetation%20and%20blooming%20flowers Hoi An Farm Stay]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==snorkeling==&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Vin wonders Da Nang snorkeling]&lt;br /&gt;
* Da Nang snorkeling tour at Son Tra Peninsula costs around 400,000 ($16)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 30m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX811&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
  2h 45m&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX766 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hong Kong to Boston&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==refs==&lt;br /&gt;
https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hello to both of you, &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nice baby&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Hanoi=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Nha Trang =&lt;br /&gt;
meh&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Ho Chi Minh city =&lt;br /&gt;
meh, don't want to go to the post office, cathedral under repair, plaza w Ho Chi Minh statue, opera house or marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Quong Binh farms stay=&lt;br /&gt;
===Phong Nha===&lt;br /&gt;
[https://vietnam.travel/things-to-do/complete-guide-phong-nha travel guide to phong nha]&lt;br /&gt;
===Phong Nha AnAn Homestay===&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to An An Homestay – your family away from home in Phong Nha!&lt;br /&gt;
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At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chay Lap Farmstay==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Families, nature lovers, budget-conscious travelers&lt;br /&gt;
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Address: &lt;br /&gt;
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Rooms: Chay Lap Farmstay offers a variety of comfortable accommodations to suit different needs and budgets. Their Farm rooms are unique elevated bungalows surrounded by nature, while Garden rooms offer spacious terraces overlooking the gardens. Mountain rooms boast stunning views of the surrounding mountains.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food: Chay Lap Farmstay serves delicious meals prepared with fresh, local ingredients. Their restaurant offers a diverse menu of Vietnamese and Western dishes, catering to various dietary preferences. Guests can also enjoy cooking classes to learn how to prepare traditional Vietnamese cuisine.&lt;br /&gt;
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Activities: The farmstay offers a range of activities to keep guests entertained, including kayaking on the Chay River, swimming in the pool, cycling through the countryside, visiting local villages, and participating in cooking classes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Son Doong Bungalow==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Eco-conscious travelers, couples, nature enthusiasts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Address: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rooms: Son Doong Bungalow offers charming bungalows nestled amidst the Phong Nha village. The bungalows are built with sustainable materials and equipped with basic amenities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food: The bungalow serves delicious organic meals prepared with fresh, locally grown ingredients. Guests can also enjoy a variety of herbal teas and local beverages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Activities: The bungalow offers guided tours to explore the surrounding caves, waterfalls, and jungle trails. Guests can also participate in traditional Vietnamese cooking classes or learn about the local culture.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Da Nang / Hoi An=&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/670071045289016808?adults=2&amp;amp;check_in=2026-03-03&amp;amp;check_out=2026-03-09&amp;amp;location=Hoi%20An%2C%20Quang%20Nam%2C%20Vietnam&amp;amp;search_mode=regular_search&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1765311226_P3UybTaOzv9SuhoQ&amp;amp;previous_page_section_name=1001&amp;amp;federated_search_id=e35b5b12-897d-4321-8ed1-91d6bb968c0c a-bnb - hoi an -an bang beach $400/6nights1bd]&lt;br /&gt;
6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.klook.com/activity/137255-tra-que-vegetable-village-cooking-class-with-market-tour/#:~:text=A%20bit%20more%20explanation%20of,lush%20vegetation%20and%20blooming%20flowers Hoi An Farm Stay]&lt;br /&gt;
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==snorkeling==&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Vin wonders Da Nang snorkeling]&lt;br /&gt;
* Da Nang snorkeling tour at Son Tra Peninsula costs around 400,000 ($16)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 30m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX811&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
  2h 45m&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX766 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hong Kong to Boston&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==refs==&lt;br /&gt;
https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hello to both of you, &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nice baby&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Hanoi=&lt;br /&gt;
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= Nha Trang =&lt;br /&gt;
meh&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Ho Chi Minh city =&lt;br /&gt;
meh, don't want to go to the post office, cathedral under repair, plaza w Ho Chi Minh statue, opera house or marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Quong Binh farms stay=&lt;br /&gt;
===Phong Nha AnAn Homestay===&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to An An Homestay – your family away from home in Phong Nha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chay Lap Farmstay==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Families, nature lovers, budget-conscious travelers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Address: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rooms: Chay Lap Farmstay offers a variety of comfortable accommodations to suit different needs and budgets. Their Farm rooms are unique elevated bungalows surrounded by nature, while Garden rooms offer spacious terraces overlooking the gardens. Mountain rooms boast stunning views of the surrounding mountains.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food: Chay Lap Farmstay serves delicious meals prepared with fresh, local ingredients. Their restaurant offers a diverse menu of Vietnamese and Western dishes, catering to various dietary preferences. Guests can also enjoy cooking classes to learn how to prepare traditional Vietnamese cuisine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Activities: The farmstay offers a range of activities to keep guests entertained, including kayaking on the Chay River, swimming in the pool, cycling through the countryside, visiting local villages, and participating in cooking classes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Son Doong Bungalow==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Eco-conscious travelers, couples, nature enthusiasts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Address: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rooms: Son Doong Bungalow offers charming bungalows nestled amidst the Phong Nha village. The bungalows are built with sustainable materials and equipped with basic amenities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food: The bungalow serves delicious organic meals prepared with fresh, locally grown ingredients. Guests can also enjoy a variety of herbal teas and local beverages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Activities: The bungalow offers guided tours to explore the surrounding caves, waterfalls, and jungle trails. Guests can also participate in traditional Vietnamese cooking classes or learn about the local culture.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Da Nang / Hoi An=&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/670071045289016808?adults=2&amp;amp;check_in=2026-03-03&amp;amp;check_out=2026-03-09&amp;amp;location=Hoi%20An%2C%20Quang%20Nam%2C%20Vietnam&amp;amp;search_mode=regular_search&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1765311226_P3UybTaOzv9SuhoQ&amp;amp;previous_page_section_name=1001&amp;amp;federated_search_id=e35b5b12-897d-4321-8ed1-91d6bb968c0c a-bnb - hoi an -an bang beach $400/6nights1bd]&lt;br /&gt;
6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.klook.com/activity/137255-tra-que-vegetable-village-cooking-class-with-market-tour/#:~:text=A%20bit%20more%20explanation%20of,lush%20vegetation%20and%20blooming%20flowers Hoi An Farm Stay]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==snorkeling==&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Vin wonders Da Nang snorkeling]&lt;br /&gt;
* Da Nang snorkeling tour at Son Tra Peninsula costs around 400,000 ($16)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Vietnam</title>
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		<updated>2025-12-15T01:43:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* Quong Binh farms stay */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== currency ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
USD / 4 = more than 100,000 * VND, &lt;br /&gt;
* $100 = &amp;gt;2,500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $20 = &amp;gt;500,000 VND&lt;br /&gt;
* $300 = &amp;gt;7,500,00&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
VND/100,000(minus 00000)* 4 = almost USD&lt;br /&gt;
* 100,000 VND = $4 (3.80)&lt;br /&gt;
* 250,000 VND = $10 (9.51)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==flights==&lt;br /&gt;
Booking reference: F9SWXD&lt;br /&gt;
===to vietnam===&lt;br /&gt;
Boston to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
 Tue, Mar 3, 12:30 AM - Wed, Mar 4, 5:00 AM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 30m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX811&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hong Kong to Ho Chi Minh City&lt;br /&gt;
  Wed, Mar 4 • 8:40 AM - 10:35 AM&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX767&lt;br /&gt;
===to Boston===&lt;br /&gt;
Ho Chi Minh City to Hong Kong&lt;br /&gt;
  Sun, Mar 22 • 11:35 AM - 3:20 PM&lt;br /&gt;
  2h 45m&lt;br /&gt;
  Cathay Pacific CX766 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hong Kong to Boston&lt;br /&gt;
 Sun, Mar 22 • 7:40 PM - 11:00 PM&lt;br /&gt;
 15h 20m&lt;br /&gt;
 Cathay Pacific CX812&lt;br /&gt;
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==refs==&lt;br /&gt;
https://thesensiblefay.com/blog/vietnam-itinerary&lt;br /&gt;
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Last night we watched the first youtube  that concentrated on the north/central regions and are super excited. Today we looked up flights for the best window of time we have. One possibility gets us to SGN Wed. March 4 at 10:30 AM and has us leaving at 1:50 PM On Sunday March 22. We are happy to spend part of that time on our own should you not be ready to leave the nest. How does that sound? Should we buy those tickets?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We can't wait to meet Liam. We are ready to book our flights and wanted to run some things by you. We want meet Tami's family and see your new spot. So what would you suggest for how long 3 days? 4 days?. It makes sense that it would be at the beginning or ending of our trip, since our flight is out of SGN. We are there for 18 days by the current plan. I would like to spend 5-6 days around Da Nang / Hoi An. This time will satisfy my 'escape Boston winter' desires to be in a place where you can snorkel, maybe ride some waves and sit on a beach. Son Tra Peninsula looks interesting, so does Cham Islands and My Khe beach. Maybe stay in a place in Hoi An, that's walking distance from An Bang Beach and use that as a base. Maybe take a train north after that stay.&lt;br /&gt;
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We are also attracted to the north. We like the beauty of the rural farming landscape around Sapa, and the amazing waterways and island of Halong Bay. Hanoi is probably the city we would like to spend time in. It seems like 7 days in the north would be super cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some things we are less interested in: French colonial architecture, churches, government buildings, post offices, war museums, marketplaces/malls. We like temples a little more, probably especially nestled in a beautiful countryside. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am sure you both don't know how the three of you will feel, and how much travel you will want to do with a new baby. We can keep things flexible.  What do you think of these ideas? Might you have a preference for timing of our stay around your spot and Saigon? Which of these other spots could you see yourselves joining us at? What are other places along our proposed route that you would suggest?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Date: December 12, 2025 at 4:58:52 AM PST&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hello to both of you, &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To answer a few of your questions. I think the visit to see us would work out best on the tail end of your trip. 3-4 days would work, including meeting in Saigon the first day.  It’s hectic but the visual stimulation makes it worth it.  Even just sitting outside on top of one of their hop on hop off busses is really fun. Great overview of the city . There is bus service from Ho Chi Minh direct to the new development here called Waterpoint. Otherwise, it’s a one hour taxi ride for about $14  Not a lot of action around here. But I think you both would enjoy for 2-3 nights, including  &amp;quot;Can Tho.&amp;quot; The floating market there is facinating. I’ll try to find a few pictures. That is near us. And yes, going over to Tam’s family house would be worthwhile, perhaps having dinner there. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5-6 days in Da Nang and Hoi An would be rewarding. The beachfront accommodations in Da Nang are reasonable. Also, review the city of Hue which is near those areas. The Kings of the Nguyen Dynasty ruled from that area. You can take a boat up the river to the Imperial Palace/countryside temple. It is impressive and informative. &lt;br /&gt;
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But yes, I agree and get your dislikes as far as what you would not want to waste your time seeing. I have yet to visit the Cham Islands and those other places you referenced. Tami could fill you in better. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To go out in Halong Bay would be epic, coupled with a few nights in Hanoi. We did 2 nights with Dora Cruise Line. One night might be rushing the experience in my view.  Sapa, which both Tami and I have not been, might be a stretch with your time frame. Certainly worth a consideration. Utube Dalat which is more near us, somewhere we could perhaps all meet as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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Excited for you both. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Our first night in the new place with our son. A bit overwhelming for both of us. Exhausted in a good way. Tami taking to motherhood quite well. Her doctor had a lot of confidence in her. &lt;br /&gt;
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Be well; Fire back with any questions or concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
nice baby&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, to summarize our discussion so far...we should plan to get to Saigon   on Wed March 18th or Thursday March 19th. Then we would meet up with you there or at your house and then spend time with a couple of adventures that might include Utube Dalat. Or we could meet in Utube Dalat and start our southern adventures with you from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either sounds great and it seems we could keep things open  til we are on our way south finding accommodations and such depending where we are.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tami knows Dalat well , I have yet to go there .&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meeting there appeals to me for sure&lt;br /&gt;
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= Hanoi=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Nha Trang =&lt;br /&gt;
meh&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Ho Chi Minh city =&lt;br /&gt;
meh, don't want to go to the post office, cathedral under repair, plaza w Ho Chi Minh statue, opera house or marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Quong Binh farms stay=&lt;br /&gt;
==Phong Nha AnAn Homestay===&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.hostelworld.com/hostels/p/297292/phong-nha-an-an-homestay/]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to An An Homestay – your family away from home in Phong Nha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At An An Homestay, you’ll wake up to peaceful rice field views and cool off in our swimming pool after a day of adventures. But travel is not only about places – it’s also about people. That’s why every evening, we invite all our guests to join our family dinner, freshly cooked by our mom and sisters. It’s the best way to taste authentic Vietnamese food, share stories, and connect with fellow travelers from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
🌟 Why stay with us?&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏊 Swimming pool with stunning rice field views.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍳 Breakfast with sunrise over the rice fields.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🍲 Family dinners every night – home-cooked food &amp;amp; the best chance to meet other travelers.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🏡 Authentic homestay atmosphere run by a local family.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛏️ Comfortable dorms &amp;amp; private rooms with A/C, lockers, and clean bathrooms.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🌿 Garden and cozy common areas to relax or socialize.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚴 Great location: peaceful countryside yet only 15 minutes from the bus stop &amp;amp; town center. 12km from The Duck Stop by bicycle with the beautiful countryside road.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🚐 Easy booking for cave tours, motorbike rentals &amp;amp; local adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
* ☕ Free WiFi, free bicycles, refill water &amp;amp; the best local tips.&lt;br /&gt;
* 🛵 Free pick-up from Phong Nha bus station by scooter (9am–9pm).&lt;br /&gt;
* 🎒 Free shower &amp;amp; luggage storage after check-out.&lt;br /&gt;
[https://chaylapfarmstay.com/news/top-7-accommodations-at-phong-nha-ke-bang/ Top 7 Accommodations in Phong Nha Ke Bang for Your Adventure]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chay Lap Farmstay==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Families, nature lovers, budget-conscious travelers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Address: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rooms: Chay Lap Farmstay offers a variety of comfortable accommodations to suit different needs and budgets. Their Farm rooms are unique elevated bungalows surrounded by nature, while Garden rooms offer spacious terraces overlooking the gardens. Mountain rooms boast stunning views of the surrounding mountains.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food: Chay Lap Farmstay serves delicious meals prepared with fresh, local ingredients. Their restaurant offers a diverse menu of Vietnamese and Western dishes, catering to various dietary preferences. Guests can also enjoy cooking classes to learn how to prepare traditional Vietnamese cuisine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Activities: The farmstay offers a range of activities to keep guests entertained, including kayaking on the Chay River, swimming in the pool, cycling through the countryside, visiting local villages, and participating in cooking classes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Son Doong Bungalow==&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Eco-conscious travelers, couples, nature enthusiasts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Address: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rooms: Son Doong Bungalow offers charming bungalows nestled amidst the Phong Nha village. The bungalows are built with sustainable materials and equipped with basic amenities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Food: The bungalow serves delicious organic meals prepared with fresh, locally grown ingredients. Guests can also enjoy a variety of herbal teas and local beverages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Activities: The bungalow offers guided tours to explore the surrounding caves, waterfalls, and jungle trails. Guests can also participate in traditional Vietnamese cooking classes or learn about the local culture.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Da Nang / Hoi An=&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/670071045289016808?adults=2&amp;amp;check_in=2026-03-03&amp;amp;check_out=2026-03-09&amp;amp;location=Hoi%20An%2C%20Quang%20Nam%2C%20Vietnam&amp;amp;search_mode=regular_search&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1765311226_P3UybTaOzv9SuhoQ&amp;amp;previous_page_section_name=1001&amp;amp;federated_search_id=e35b5b12-897d-4321-8ed1-91d6bb968c0c a-bnb - hoi an -an bang beach $400/6nights1bd]&lt;br /&gt;
6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.klook.com/activity/137255-tra-que-vegetable-village-cooking-class-with-market-tour/#:~:text=A%20bit%20more%20explanation%20of,lush%20vegetation%20and%20blooming%20flowers Hoi An Farm Stay]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==snorkeling==&lt;br /&gt;
The best snorkeling near Da Nang is found at the Cham Islands and the Son Tra Peninsula. The Cham Islands offer a richer marine ecosystem, while the Son Tra Peninsula is more accessible for shorter trips from the city. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tours: Half-day tours by boat are available and often include snorkeling, fishing, and island hopping to various bays (prices start around $18-29 USD). Tour operators like Dacotours - Da Nang Tours and Sea Trek VietNam offer these excursions. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Son Tra Peninsula ===&lt;br /&gt;
Best for: Close proximity (8km from Da Nang center), natural/less developed feel, local coral spots.&lt;br /&gt;
Location: Just north of Da Nang city.&lt;br /&gt;
Key spots: Bai But, Hon Sup, Bai Da Den, Nam Beach area. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Specific Conditions&lt;br /&gt;
Bai But: Known as one of the five protected coral reef areas on the peninsula, it offers a well-preserved environment for viewing marine life.&lt;br /&gt;
Bai Nam: This spot is also part of the nature reserve and is noted for its shallow, calm water, which is great for morning paddling and avoiding crowds. However, some reviews mention sharp rocks in some areas, so caution is advised when entering the water from shore. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://vinwonders.com/en/wonderpedia/news/da-nang-snorkeling/#:~:text=Da%20Nang%20weather%20is%20characterized,over%2054%20different%20coral%20species. Vin wonders Da Nang snorkeling]&lt;br /&gt;
* Da Nang snorkeling tour at Son Tra Peninsula costs around 400,000 ($16)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cham Islands===&lt;br /&gt;
* Full-package tours can cost from 500,000 VND to 700,000 VND&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>June25</title>
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		<updated>2025-05-24T20:54:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
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Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Tiverton, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/755206?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748115043566&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=8866&amp;amp;destination=Middletown%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.56155%2C-71.30822&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;pricing_group=nightly_price&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=db7467dd-71fd-4dd7-a1a8-b18156b499b1&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=321&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34300784&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00044cc828d6e46d4663a8020711aec2ee7c&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34300784 dog, boat friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fairhaven, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/1551316?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748117719534&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6091787&amp;amp;destination=Gay+Head+Lighthouse%2C+Aquinnah%2C+Massachusetts%2C+United+States+of+America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.34737%2C-70.837067&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=waterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=b34e6cbb-aec2-439e-ba2d-518a823bf52c&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top Cozy, clean, relaxing beach cottage awaits you!!] dog and boat? friendly, sleeps 5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Chilmark, Martha's Vineyard [https://www.vrbo.com/738746?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748118550511&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6047691&amp;amp;destination=Martha%27s%20Vineyard%2C%20Massachusetts%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.380497%2C-70.64547&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=beachfront%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=5cb7753d-644f-4bda-b079-0dfc3d104183&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=514&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34532860&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004a1a6aaf85ca24f95887ac0b8076b8c9e&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34532860 dog and boatfriendly, sleeps 4]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Bourne, MA [https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/897496553079019038?check_in=2025-06-03&amp;amp;check_out=2025-06-13&amp;amp;search_mode=regular_search&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1748119557_P3q19R-bkStUffbl&amp;amp;previous_page_section_name=1000&amp;amp;federated_search_id=5c8ef8c3-0d2a-4369-b716-279ed1fec7f8 waterfront cape cottage]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13684</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13684"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T20:52:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Tiverton, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/755206?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748115043566&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=8866&amp;amp;destination=Middletown%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.56155%2C-71.30822&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;pricing_group=nightly_price&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=db7467dd-71fd-4dd7-a1a8-b18156b499b1&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=321&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34300784&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00044cc828d6e46d4663a8020711aec2ee7c&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34300784 dog, boat friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Bourne [https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/897496553079019038?check_in=2025-06-03&amp;amp;check_out=2025-06-13&amp;amp;search_mode=regular_search&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1748119557_P3q19R-bkStUffbl&amp;amp;previous_page_section_name=1000&amp;amp;federated_search_id=5c8ef8c3-0d2a-4369-b716-279ed1fec7f8&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Fairhaven, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/1551316?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748117719534&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6091787&amp;amp;destination=Gay+Head+Lighthouse%2C+Aquinnah%2C+Massachusetts%2C+United+States+of+America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.34737%2C-70.837067&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=waterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=b34e6cbb-aec2-439e-ba2d-518a823bf52c&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top Cozy, clean, relaxing beach cottage awaits you!!] dog and boat? friendly, sleeps 5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Chilmark, Martha's Vineyard [https://www.vrbo.com/738746?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748118550511&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6047691&amp;amp;destination=Martha%27s%20Vineyard%2C%20Massachusetts%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.380497%2C-70.64547&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=beachfront%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=5cb7753d-644f-4bda-b079-0dfc3d104183&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=514&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34532860&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004a1a6aaf85ca24f95887ac0b8076b8c9e&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34532860 dog and boatfriendly, sleeps 4]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Bourne, MA [https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/897496553079019038?check_in=2025-06-03&amp;amp;check_out=2025-06-13&amp;amp;search_mode=regular_search&amp;amp;source_impression_id=p3_1748119557_P3q19R-bkStUffbl&amp;amp;previous_page_section_name=1000&amp;amp;federated_search_id=5c8ef8c3-0d2a-4369-b716-279ed1fec7f8 waterfront cape cottage]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13680</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13680"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T20:35:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tiverton, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/755206?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748115043566&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=8866&amp;amp;destination=Middletown%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.56155%2C-71.30822&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;pricing_group=nightly_price&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=db7467dd-71fd-4dd7-a1a8-b18156b499b1&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=321&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34300784&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00044cc828d6e46d4663a8020711aec2ee7c&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34300784 dog, boat friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fairhaven, RI [ https://www.vrbo.com/1551316?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748117719534&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6091787&amp;amp;destination=Gay+Head+Lighthouse%2C+Aquinnah%2C+Massachusetts%2C+United+States+of+America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.34737%2C-70.837067&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=waterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=b34e6cbb-aec2-439e-ba2d-518a823bf52c&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top _dp=251&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=33983994&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00049d9f8697a52a47c68bd2b389b169173e&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=33983994 dog and boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
* Menemsha, Martha's Vineyard [https://www.vrbo.com/874121?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748118191685&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6047691&amp;amp;destination=Martha%27s%20Vineyard%2C%20Massachusetts%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.380497%2C-70.64547&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=beachfront%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=8698f122-ea28-4acf-9801-fe97f86c19a5&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=609&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=39956527&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004ec499059425f4738a05ca74e54751030&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=39956527 dog and boat? friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;br /&gt;
*Chilmark, Martha's Vineyard [https://www.vrbo.com/738746?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748118550511&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6047691&amp;amp;destination=Martha%27s%20Vineyard%2C%20Massachusetts%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.380497%2C-70.64547&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=beachfront%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=5cb7753d-644f-4bda-b079-0dfc3d104183&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=514&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34532860&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004a1a6aaf85ca24f95887ac0b8076b8c9e&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34532860 dog and boat? friendly, sleeps 4]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13679</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13679"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T20:28:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-gAusMwgIEECMYJ8ICChAjGIAEGCcYigXCAgsQLhiABBiRAhiKBcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIKEC4YgAQYQxiKBcICDhAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgITEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiDARiKBRiLA8ICExAuGIAEGEMYxwEYigUYjgUYrwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICGRAuGIAEGEMYigUYlwUY3AQY3gQY4ATYAQHCAhkQLhiABBhDGKYDGPgFGKgDGIoFGIsDGJ0DwgIdEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwHCAhAQABiABBixAxhDGIMBGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYiwPCAigQLhiABBhDGKYDGPgFGKgDGIoFGIsDGJ0DGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBwgINEAAYgAQYQxiKBRiLA8ICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAgoQLhiABBgUGIcCwgIZEC4YgAQYFBiHAhiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAcICChAAGIAEGBQYhwKYAwC6BgYIARABGBSSBwQ0LjExoAfAjQKyBwQ0LjExuAfrDA&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tiverton, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/755206?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748115043566&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=8866&amp;amp;destination=Middletown%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.56155%2C-71.30822&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;pricing_group=nightly_price&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=db7467dd-71fd-4dd7-a1a8-b18156b499b1&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=321&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34300784&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00044cc828d6e46d4663a8020711aec2ee7c&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34300784 dog, boat friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fairhaven, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/1551316?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748117719534&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6091787&amp;amp;destination=Gay+Head+Lighthouse%2C+Aquinnah%2C+Massachusetts%2C+United+States+of+America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.34737%2C-70.837067&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=waterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=b34e6cbb-aec2-439e-ba2d-518a823bf52c&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top _dp=251&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=33983994&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00049d9f8697a52a47c68bd2b389b169173e&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=33983994 dog and boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
* Menemsha, Martha's Vineyard [https://www.vrbo.com/874121?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748118191685&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6047691&amp;amp;destination=Martha%27s%20Vineyard%2C%20Massachusetts%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.380497%2C-70.64547&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=beachfront%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=8698f122-ea28-4acf-9801-fe97f86c19a5&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=609&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=39956527&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004ec499059425f4738a05ca74e54751030&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=39956527 dog and boat? friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13678</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13678"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T20:21:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tiverton, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/755206?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748115043566&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=8866&amp;amp;destination=Middletown%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.56155%2C-71.30822&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;pricing_group=nightly_price&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=db7467dd-71fd-4dd7-a1a8-b18156b499b1&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=321&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34300784&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00044cc828d6e46d4663a8020711aec2ee7c&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34300784 dog, boat friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fairhaven, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/1551316?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748117719534&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6091787&amp;amp;destination=Gay+Head+Lighthouse%2C+Aquinnah%2C+Massachusetts%2C+United+States+of+America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.34737%2C-70.837067&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=waterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=b34e6cbb-aec2-439e-ba2d-518a823bf52c&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=251&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=33983994&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00049d9f8697a52a47c68bd2b389b169173e&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=33983994 dog and boat friendly]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13677</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13677"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T20:20:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tiverton, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/755206?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748115043566&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=8866&amp;amp;destination=Middletown%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.56155%2C-71.30822&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;pricing_group=nightly_price&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=db7467dd-71fd-4dd7-a1a8-b18156b499b1&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=321&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34300784&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00044cc828d6e46d4663a8020711aec2ee7c&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34300784 dog, boat friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;br /&gt;
* FAIRHAVEN, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/1551316?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748117719534&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=6091787&amp;amp;destination=Gay+Head+Lighthouse%2C+Aquinnah%2C+Massachusetts%2C+United+States+of+America&amp;amp;destType=MARKET&amp;amp;latLong=41.34737%2C-70.837067&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=waterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=b34e6cbb-aec2-439e-ba2d-518a823bf52c&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=251&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=33983994&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00049d9f8697a52a47c68bd2b389b169173e&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=33983994 dog and boat friendly]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13676</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13676"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T19:37:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tiverton, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/755206?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748115043566&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=8866&amp;amp;destination=Middletown%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.56155%2C-71.30822&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;pricing_group=nightly_price&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=db7467dd-71fd-4dd7-a1a8-b18156b499b1&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=321&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34300784&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00044cc828d6e46d4663a8020711aec2ee7c&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34300784 dog, boat friendly, sleeps 5]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13675</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13675"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T19:35:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tiverton, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/755206?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748115043566&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=8866&amp;amp;destination=Middletown%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.56155%2C-71.30822&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;pricing_group=nightly_price&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=db7467dd-71fd-4dd7-a1a8-b18156b499b1&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=321&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=34300784&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=00044cc828d6e46d4663a8020711aec2ee7c&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=34300784 sleeps 5]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13674</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13674"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T19:29:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* spots in New England */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prudence Island, RI [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 dog, boat friendly]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13671</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13671"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T19:22:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
** it should look like &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[https://coolplace.com a cool place]&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt; which when saved will look like [https://coolplace.com a cool place]&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-gAusMwgIEECMYJ8ICChAjGIAEGCcYigXCAgsQLhiABBiRAhiKBcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIKEC4YgAQYQxiKBcICDhAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgITEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiDARiKBRiLA8ICExAuGIAEGEMYxwEYigUYjgUYrwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICGRAuGIAEGEMYigUYlwUY3AQY3gQY4ATYAQHCAhkQLhiABBhDGKYDGPgFGKgDGIoFGIsDGJ0DwgIdEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwHCAhAQABiABBixAxhDGIMBGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYiwPCAigQLhiABBhDGKYDGPgFGKgDGIoFGIsDGJ0DGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBwgINEAAYgAQYQxiKBRiLA8ICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAgoQLhiABBgUGIcCwgIZEC4YgAQYFBiHAhiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAcICChAAGIAEGBQYhwKYAwC6BgYIARABGBSSBwQ0LjExoAfAjQKyBwQ0LjExuAfrDA&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13670</id>
		<title>June25</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13670"/>
		<updated>2025-05-24T19:20:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
** copy the url (command c)&lt;br /&gt;
** inside the brackets paste the url (command v)&lt;br /&gt;
** still inside the bracket, add a space then a description of the link&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-gAusMwgIEECMYJ8ICChAjGIAEGCcYigXCAgsQLhiABBiRAhiKBcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIKEC4YgAQYQxiKBcICDhAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgITEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiDARiKBRiLA8ICExAuGIAEGEMYxwEYigUYjgUYrwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICGRAuGIAEGEMYigUYlwUY3AQY3gQY4ATYAQHCAhkQLhiABBhDGKYDGPgFGKgDGIoFGIsDGJ0DwgIdEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwHCAhAQABiABBixAxhDGIMBGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYiwPCAigQLhiABBhDGKYDGPgFGKgDGIoFGIsDGJ0DGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBwgINEAAYgAQYQxiKBRiLA8ICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAgoQLhiABBgUGIcCwgIZEC4YgAQYFBiHAhiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAcICChAAGIAEGBQYhwKYAwC6BgYIARABGBSSBwQ0LjExoAfAjQKyBwQ0LjExuAfrDA&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=June25&amp;diff=13669</id>
		<title>June25</title>
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		<updated>2025-05-24T19:17:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
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Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
==howto==&lt;br /&gt;
* press edit&lt;br /&gt;
* create a bullet entry with * &lt;br /&gt;
* to create an entry, just start writing about the place&lt;br /&gt;
* to put in a link add []&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>June25</title>
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		<updated>2025-05-24T19:14:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
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Places to go mid-week with boat and dog&lt;br /&gt;
== spots in New England ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Here is a nice spot [https://www.google.com/search?q=prudence+island&amp;amp;sca_esv=6085a13dae639569&amp;amp;sxsrf=AE3TifMW5UudyTUWt8bfXpIz99LB_u183Q%3A1748113586027&amp;amp;ei=shgyaPSwAdaf5NoPzs6AmQg&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwj00cnK5ryNAxXWD1kFHU4nIIMQ4dUDCBA&amp;amp;uact=5&amp;amp;oq=prudence+island&amp;amp;gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgDIg9wcnVkZW5jZSBpc2xhbmQyBRAuGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMggQABiABBiLAzIXEC4YgAQYpgMYxwEYqAMYiwMYjgUYrwEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwEyFBAuGIAEGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAE2AEBSMchUABY-BhwAHgBkAEAmAGDAaABgwyqAQM5Lja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAg-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&amp;amp;sclient=gws-wiz-serp Purdence Island RI]&lt;br /&gt;
* amoiuysn  spot [https://www.vrbo.com/3820614?chkin=2025-06-03&amp;amp;chkout=2025-06-13&amp;amp;d1=2025-06-03&amp;amp;d2=2025-06-13&amp;amp;startDate=2025-06-03&amp;amp;endDate=2025-06-13&amp;amp;x_pwa=1&amp;amp;rfrr=HSR&amp;amp;pwa_ts=1748113727539&amp;amp;referrerUrl=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudnJiby5jb20vSG90ZWwtU2VhcmNo&amp;amp;useRewards=false&amp;amp;adults=2&amp;amp;regionId=553248635976433058&amp;amp;destination=Newport%20County%2C%20Rhode%20Island%2C%20United%20States%20of%20America&amp;amp;destType=BOUNDING_BOX&amp;amp;latLong=41.489983%2C-71.313771&amp;amp;nightly_price=0%2C288&amp;amp;amenities=PETS&amp;amp;house_rules_group=pets_allowed&amp;amp;location_group=lake_location%2Cbeach%2Cwaterfront&amp;amp;privacyTrackingState=CAN_TRACK&amp;amp;searchId=d1b79b65-a105-45d7-9060-c5c3ee8828a4&amp;amp;sort=RECOMMENDED&amp;amp;top_dp=283&amp;amp;top_cur=USD&amp;amp;userIntent=&amp;amp;selectedRoomType=101897672&amp;amp;selectedRatePlan=0004dc31c17033924c769e6be63762f12c31&amp;amp;expediaPropertyId=101897672 another spot]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Panama3-24</title>
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		<updated>2023-11-28T15:24:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* Getting to casco viejo From Tocumen Airport */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;===Bocas Del Toro, Panama 2/9/24-3/6/24===&lt;br /&gt;
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====getting there====&lt;br /&gt;
=====copa BOS&amp;lt;-&amp;gt;PTY=====&lt;br /&gt;
 Reservation Code BG5MI3 $1,394&lt;br /&gt;
 Outbound flight · CM312 Fri, Feb 9, 2024 06h 00m Boston (BOS)07:36am Panama (PTY)01:36pm&lt;br /&gt;
 Return flight · CM704 Tues, Mar 6, 2024 05h 37m Panama (PTY)07:30am Boston (BOS)01:07pm&lt;br /&gt;
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=====airpanama PAC&amp;lt;-&amp;gt;BOC=====&lt;br /&gt;
 Reservation: FNZKUG Air Panama (reservaciones@airpanama.com) $402.78 [http://sitebuilt.net/files/places/panama/airpanama%20-%20E-TICKET%20ITINERARY%20RECEIPT%20-%20MCKENNA_PERI.pdf peri] [http://sitebuilt.net/files/places/panama/airpanama-%20E-TICKET%20ITINERARY%20RECEIPT%20-%20MCKENNA_TIMOTHY.pdf tim]&lt;br /&gt;
 PAC Panama City Marcos A. Gelabert José Ezequiel Hall -&amp;gt; BOC  Bocas Del Toro&lt;br /&gt;
 10-Feb-24 - 13:00hs AIR PANAMA 7P 0980 arrives 14:00hs&lt;br /&gt;
 05-Mar-24 - 09:15hs AIR PANAMA 7P 0681 arrives 10:15hs&lt;br /&gt;
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https://ibe.airpanama.com/flightresults/&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.wanderandsoul.com/inspiration/panama-city-to-bocas-del-toro&lt;br /&gt;
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Flights leave from Albrook Gelabert Airport, which is one of 3 international airports near the capital city of Panama.&lt;br /&gt;
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Up to 3 flights leave the airport for Bocas Del Toro per day and the main flight provider for this trip is Air Panama. Tickets cost between $90 and $150 for an economy seat. &lt;br /&gt;
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If you are flying into Panama City, you will likely land at the Tocumen International Airport and need to switch to Albrook Gelabert Airport. You can get a taxi between the two for around $25 or a shuttle which is the more expensive option, costing around $37.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several airports near Panama City and airport codes can get confusing when booking your tickets. The international airport code for Albrook Gelabert is PAC and for Bocas Del Toro, it's BOC. Landing in the country from overseas, you will arrive at Tocumen, and the code is PTY.&lt;br /&gt;
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When booking your flights, make sure you leave enough time for your transfer between the two airports in Panama City. A minimum of 4 hours between flights is sufficient.&lt;br /&gt;
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=====[https://uncharted.io/@annavichnevetskaia/3-days-in-panama-almost-like-a-local--Ks069fkxF9VqGaXshpJ Getting to casco viejo From Tocumen Airport] =====&lt;br /&gt;
Most international flights get into  Tocumen International Airport Panama, located quite a ways from the center of Panama City. An airport taxi will charge you anywhere from $30 to $50 to get into the city, depending on how easy they think it will be to rip you off. I rarely recommend anyone to take one of these, since they are no more secure than a taxi off the street and they usually overcharge, particularly if you don’t speak Spanish. &lt;br /&gt;
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An uber will run you about $28 – this is my preferred method of transportation if I have lots of luggage or after a long trip. There is free WiFi at the airport so you should be able to order your car. Keep in mind that it will pick you up from the parking lot, so you need to pick which row you will be in – there are large number signs – and cross the street to the parking to wait for your car to arrive. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cheapest way to get into the city however is by taking a bus. There is no clear signage for this, but it will only cost you $1.25-$1.50 plus a taxi to your hostel which will usually be less than $3 once you are in the city). To get on the bus, walk out of the airport arrivals and go to the right. There will be a path that goes between a café and the airport building into a parking lot. It doesn’t look like you are supposed to go there, but keep on walking. Then you will see a path with bus-stop-like roofs, just follow that until you get to the main street. You’ll walk up to a bus stop, but that’s not the one you need. To get into the city, you need to cross the street. If in doubt ask someone for Metrobus and they will waive you in the right direction. &lt;br /&gt;
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Once at the bus stop, you will have two options – an official bus and a non-official bus called pirata. Because you are unlikely to have a metro card loaded with money (although you can offer someone $1.25 if you have exact change), you may want to take a pirata – they are safe, as long as you are traveling during the day. Either way, the bus should say Corredor, which means it’s an express that takes the highway. It will take you straight to the city – for most hotels in Panama City get off at Multicentro and take a cab, don’t pay over $5 for any destination. If you are staying in Casco Viejo, get off at 5 de Mayo and pay $1.50 for a taxi to Casco.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magnolia Inn pickup: If you would you like an Airport pick-up on your upcoming trip to Panama, we have a local taxi / private car service that we recommend. Our driver charges $35.00 for up to four persons plus $5 p/p additional for each adult from the international airport (PTY), there is no extra charge for children under 10.  $25 for Albrook Airport.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you are interested in an airport pick-up please send your airline, flight number, time of arrival, amount of luggage, whatsapp phone number and the city from where you are flying in from. We will then send a confirmation email regarding your pick up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magnolia Inn USA 1-786-375-9633; www.magnoliapanama.com; cnr Calle Boquete &amp;amp;Calle 8a Este, Casco Viejo. Details speak to the thoughtfulness of this cool inn, a restored three-story colo- nial run by American expats whose service and travel advice excels. Ample top-floor doubles with skyline views rank among the city’s best, with coffee makers, mini- fridges and flat-screen TVs. Grown-ups like the air-conditioned dorm with single beds, orthopedic mattresses, quality bedding, in- dividual lamps and numerous outlets. Very family-friendly.&lt;br /&gt;
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https://magnolia-inn.panama-city-hotels.com/en/&lt;br /&gt;
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#inbox/FMfcgzGwHpXKRSnsSlpMvrBlwXntlkdK&lt;br /&gt;
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#inbox/FMfcgzGwHpXKRSpVDpSPMjBQcGNFGGrQ&lt;br /&gt;
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=====[[https://www.going.com/guides/the-layover-guide-to-panama-city layover guide] Food &amp;amp; Drink in Panama City=====&lt;br /&gt;
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Be sure to try sancocho, Panama’s national dish. It’s a broth of chicken, corn on the cob, starchy vegetables and culantro (not to be confused with cilantro), and it’s reputed to be one of the best hangover cures in the world. Panama’s version of the snow cone, raspao, is a delightful refresher that’s often topped with condensed milk. &lt;br /&gt;
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There are multiple ways to get from Panama City Marcos A Gelabert Airport (PAC) to Casco Viejo: &lt;br /&gt;
*Taxi: The quickest way to get to Selina Casco Viejo Panama City, taking about 19 minutes and costing $22–$27&lt;br /&gt;
*Bus: A cheap and fast way to get around, with buses running frequently&lt;br /&gt;
*Shuttle: The fastest way to get to Panama City from Tocumen Airport, taking about 16 minutes and costing $35–$36&lt;br /&gt;
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=====from BOC -&amp;gt;Old Bank=====&lt;br /&gt;
From the Bocas airport, take a 1 min cab ride or walk ten minutes to the public boat dock that goes to Bastimentos (not the Carenero boat dock) The dock is located next to Chow Kai Hardware store in the center of Bocas Town on Main ST. Anyone can point you in the general direction OR walk out straight from the airport and turn right on to 3rd st (Main St). The park will then be on your left, hostels on your right.  Keep walking.  If you pass Buena Vista Restaurant, you’ve gone too far. Ask your driver to take you to the public dock in Old Bank.&lt;br /&gt;
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====there====&lt;br /&gt;
=====body surfing=====&lt;br /&gt;
https://solbungalowsbocas.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Bocas-del-Toro-Surf-Map-3.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
https://bocastours.com/en/surf-bocas&lt;br /&gt;
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Bluff Beach, Isla Colon&lt;br /&gt;
*located about 25 minutes from the city, consists of a long strip of golden sand, accompanied by a perfect tropical forest. is not recommended for swimming, since it has robust waves. Its waves break near the shore,&lt;br /&gt;
Wizard Beach, Bastimentos Island&lt;br /&gt;
*Located on the east side of Isla Bastimentos when there are no waves in any other part of Bocas del Toro in Wizard there will always be. fun beach breaks.&lt;br /&gt;
Red Frog Beach, Bastimento Island&lt;br /&gt;
*captivating beach breaks a mix of white sand with coral reefs. Upon arrival you will find surfboards, a hostel.&lt;br /&gt;
Paunch Beach, Colon Island&lt;br /&gt;
*It is one of the best known places in Isla Colón for surfing.it is the closest place to the city &lt;br /&gt;
Silverbacks, Bastimento Island&lt;br /&gt;
*for expert surfers and boards of more than two meters, around seven feet, are recommended.&lt;br /&gt;
Black Rock, Carenero Island&lt;br /&gt;
*the best place to learn to surf. Intended for beginners or people who surf little.&lt;br /&gt;
Tiger Tail, Isla Colon&lt;br /&gt;
*in front of the Paki Point Restaurant. Small waves make Tiger Tail a recommended site for beginner surfers.It is not recommended for swimming since there is no contact with the sand or the reef, therefore you can be dragged into the sea.&lt;br /&gt;
Dumpers, Colon Island&lt;br /&gt;
*located north of Boca Town, near Paunch Beach.It consists of a sharp reef, shallow so you must be very careful and it is recommended only to experienced people.&lt;br /&gt;
Old Mans, Carenero Island&lt;br /&gt;
*beginners who want to surf more smoothly and without fighting against the crowd.&lt;br /&gt;
Bluff Beach, Isla Colon&lt;br /&gt;
*noted for surfing on it, which indicates that it is not recommended for swimming, since it has robust waves. Its waves break near the shore, both left and right. &lt;br /&gt;
Black Rock, Carenero Island&lt;br /&gt;
*Black Rock or black rock is a beach that breaks its waves on a deep reef It is also a place for beginners. &lt;br /&gt;
Long Beach, Bastimento Island&lt;br /&gt;
*Long Beach, also called Playa Larga, is located near the town of Bocas.A place where its inhabitants are sea turtles and national guards who live in a beach shack.&lt;br /&gt;
It is a quite lonely place 1 hour walk*&lt;br /&gt;
Kusapín (Uva Beach), Ngäbe-Buglé Comarca&lt;br /&gt;
*located in a part of the semi-autochthonous Ngäbe-Buglé territory, As for its waves, they are a first-class beach break, and it receives more waves than all the beaches in Bocas. those who visit it must show the greatest respect for the local people.&lt;br /&gt;
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=====snorkeling=====&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.snorkeling-report.com/destination/snorkeling-panama/ snorkeling Panama]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.snorkeling-report.com/spot/snorkeling-old-bank-bocas-del-toro/ snorkeling old bank]&lt;br /&gt;
http://sitebuilt.net/files/places/panama/snorkeling%20spots.png&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.snorkeling-report.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/gorgonian-old-bank.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
=====accomodations=====&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.booking.com/hotel/pa/carmen-39-s-place.html?aid=2202411&amp;amp;label=affnetTP_321020781874500&amp;amp;sid=9812d901a7b402b7ded7844de2787d01;checkin=2024-02-12;checkout=2024-03-11;room1=A,A;homd=1;srpvid=8fa59177233a0145;srepoch=1700685852;atlas_src=hp_iw_btn#map_closed carmen's place] &lt;br /&gt;
[https://cf.bstatic.com/xdata/images/hotel/max1280x900/489067647.jpg?k=0fa6298514316348474d7c1364437f4ebf9ab26d6be797dbcbbe41b0c6b8d4e6&amp;amp;o=&amp;amp;hp=1 dock]&lt;br /&gt;
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Peri is recovering from a broken knee; she should be fine by then. When we were looking through the reviews we noticed a picture showing a lot of steps. Less steps would be better. We are flexible if a room with less steps is available for different dates. How many steps from the shore is it to our room?&lt;br /&gt;
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One person mentioned wishing she had a fan. Would a fan be available if it was hot and humid?&lt;br /&gt;
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====places====&lt;br /&gt;
=====isla carenero=====&lt;br /&gt;
you can walk along the Carenero island trail to reach some of the best surfing spots in Bocas del Toro. You can find places such as Black Rock, a perfect place for beginner surfers, and La Punta, home to some of the best waves in Bocas del Toro and long barrels for those who dare to paddle hard enough on those epic days. Carenero is also a wonderful place to paddle around on the flat days. Grab a kayak or paddle board to enjoy the beautiful scenery and colorful reef below!&lt;br /&gt;
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Deep Boarding&lt;br /&gt;
Deep Boarding is one of those strange, tourist-friendly sports that gets thought up when locations want an attraction of their own… and it is lots of fun.The theory is basically this: you hold onto a plastic board with both your hands, using your forearms and wrists to guide yourself up and down.&lt;br /&gt;
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====food====&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://thefireflybocasdeltoro.com/bar-restaurant/ The '''Firefly''' brings you asian style tapas inspired by the Caribbean]&lt;br /&gt;
Once off the boat in Basti, Turn left at the sidewalk and walk about 5 minutes until you get to an Adventista Church on the right, a light colored cement structure. It doesn’t look like a church so look carefully. There is a small cement path just before the church. Look for our teal FIREFLY sign on the pole. Turn right onto the path and you will see the ocean ahead in front of you. Look for our arrow. When you reach the ocean turn right again and you will be able to see us down a bit nestled in the palms. At night, we are pretty well lit and easy to spot once on the ocean path.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.twowanderingsoles.com/blog/bocas-del-toro-panama Utimate travel guide Where to Eat in Bocas del Toro]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Derek’s Caribbean Flavor''' (Bocas): For the best grilled meats this side of the Caribbean. Ask Derek if he’ll have lobster for one of the days you are there. You will not regret it!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Bocas Blended (Bocas)''': A fun painted school-bus-turned food truck, this tiny eatery serves up wraps, salads and smoothies.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Bocas Brewery (Bocas)''': For an island brewery, their craft beer ain’t half-bad! (Read: It’s actually really good) The pub food goes well with the laid back atmosphere too.   &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Cafe del Mar (Bocas)''': A cute little cafe dedicated to using fresh local ingredients with no preservatives.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Amaranto (Bocas)''': Right next door to Cafe del Mar, this cafe serves up fresh coffee, cold pressed juices, and breakfast favorites.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Falafel Bocas (Bocas)''': This vegan-friendly restaurant is serving up the best authentic middle eastern cuisine in town. &lt;br /&gt;
Sweet Love Tea House (Bocas): This holistic tea house will give you all the hippie vibes, providing a cosy space to relax and enjoy a hot beverage. &lt;br /&gt;
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Food in Bocas del Toto Panama&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Leaf Eaters Cafe (Carenero)''': You’ll need to take a $1 water taxi from Bocas Town to reach this over-water restaurant, but the delicious and healthy menu is worth it. Save room for desert as the chocolate brownie is life changing! (Ok…maybe not life changing, but it’ll make your day!)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Raw Fusion (Bocas)''': One of the more fancy restaurant establishments in Bocas Town, this place deems itself a “Japanese fusion and sea lounge”. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''La Bugita Cafe (Bocas)''': This over-water cafe serves up some delicious favorites for a casual lunch. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Azul Restaurant (Bocas)''': One of the few spots in Bocas Town for gormet dining. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Om Cafe (Bocas)''': If you’re looking for Indian food, this over-water restaurant is the spot for you. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''El Ultimo Refugio (Bocas)''': Serving up Caribbean/American fusion with a focus on sea food. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Tequila Republic (Bocas)''' – If you’re looking for a good cocktail, try the spicy margarita!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Bibi’s on the Beach (Carenero)''': Serving up surfside seafood with a beachy vibe and great views. You’ll need to take a water taxi from Bocas Town to reach this place.&lt;br /&gt;
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====stuff to pack====&lt;br /&gt;
You’ll want to make sure you pack a rain jacket and have a dry bag with you in case of a sudden down pour.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Panama3-24&amp;diff=12850</id>
		<title>Panama3-24</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Panama3-24&amp;diff=12850"/>
		<updated>2023-11-14T00:01:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Summer_22&amp;diff=11562</id>
		<title>Summer 22</title>
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		<updated>2022-04-05T01:43:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==prospects==&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.vacasa.com/unit/10982?checkIn=08-06-2022&amp;amp;checkOut=08-10-2022 w dock near bath ME nodog]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.vrbo.com/1517677?adultsCount=4&amp;amp;arrival=2022-08-06&amp;amp;childrenCount=2&amp;amp;departure=2022-08-13&amp;amp;petIncluded=true&amp;amp;unitId=2076473 mashpee]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.vrbo.com/3710138ha?adultsCount=4&amp;amp;arrival=2022-08-06&amp;amp;childrenCount=2&amp;amp;departure=2022-08-13&amp;amp;petIncluded=true&amp;amp;unitId=3724858 backup on pond mashpee]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Summer_22&amp;diff=11561</id>
		<title>Summer 22</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Summer_22&amp;diff=11561"/>
		<updated>2022-04-05T01:40:50Z</updated>

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		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Summer_22&amp;diff=11558</id>
		<title>Summer 22</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Summer_22&amp;diff=11558"/>
		<updated>2022-04-05T01:21:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Summer_22&amp;diff=11551</id>
		<title>Summer 22</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Summer_22&amp;diff=11551"/>
		<updated>2022-04-05T01:11:27Z</updated>

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		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Parley_vinfo_winter&amp;diff=11272</id>
		<title>Parley vinfo winter</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki2.sitebuilt.net/index.php?title=Parley_vinfo_winter&amp;diff=11272"/>
		<updated>2021-12-22T16:51:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* contacts */&lt;/p&gt;
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===12 Parley Vale Info (winter)===&lt;br /&gt;
====contacts====&lt;br /&gt;
*Tim (857)498-2574 mckenna.tim@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Peri (617)817-8501 perimckenna@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Noah (857)498-2732 noah.mckenna@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
*John (617)968-4960 clipperjohn@gmail.com and Sue Clippinger 617-538-9734  clippingersue@gmail.com (nextdoor)&lt;br /&gt;
We will be in Mexico so it is possible texting won't work. Texting and emailing might be best.&lt;br /&gt;
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====general + food/towels/linens/paper====&lt;br /&gt;
*living on a dirt road, we find leaving our shoes in the entry makes for a more clean and comfortable house.&lt;br /&gt;
*help yourself to any food or beer&lt;br /&gt;
*beds are made and there are towels on the bed. (Nancy Lee, we will leave a set of clean sheets and a towel in the downstairs bedroom)&lt;br /&gt;
*extra linens/towels are in the 2nd floor hall closet&lt;br /&gt;
*paper towels/toilet paper in the back hall&lt;br /&gt;
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====heat====&lt;br /&gt;
Heat is controlled from a web browser. The first floor will be set at 68 while you are here&lt;br /&gt;
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A few times a winter the device that controls the heat can get confused by power interruption or dropped wifi. It then needs to be reset. The device  is in the cabinet in the bedroom off the kitchen. On the lower portion there is a row of switches. One of them is marked &amp;lt;kbd&amp;gt; heat reset&amp;lt;/kbd&amp;gt;. Turn it off, count to 10 then turn it back on. After 5 minutes repeat the procedure. That should take care of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to use the upstairs rooms (they will be set at 58) or if you want to change the first floor temperature in the music, living, tv or guest room, you can text me and I will change it. Or you can boot up the laptop in the kitchen, log in as guest, open the Microsoft Edge browser and control the app yourself.&lt;br /&gt;
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====WIFI====&lt;br /&gt;
:Wifi SSID is street_no_vale2 or street_no_vale5 or uli_fence(porch and yard) and the passwords for all is jjjjjjjj (8js)&lt;br /&gt;
====tv/stereo====&lt;br /&gt;
;TV: Fios remote is on top of the TV. &amp;lt;kbd&amp;gt;tv-input&amp;lt;/kbd&amp;gt; is the bottom left button. FIOS is &amp;lt;kbd&amp;gt;HDMI1-cable&amp;lt;/kbd&amp;gt; input and chromecast is &amp;lt;kbd&amp;gt;HDMI2-DVD&amp;lt;/kbd&amp;gt; input.  &lt;br /&gt;
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;stereo: For the stereo please &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;turn down the volume before switching anything&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;, some inputs are way louder than others. Output A is living room speakers, B is bathroom speakers, the black amp below that controls kitchen and tvroom speakers. It has a chromecast audio connected to the AUX input.&lt;br /&gt;
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====garbage/recycling====&lt;br /&gt;
:There are recycling bins behind the doors to the right of the refrigerator. There is a compost bin out the back door toward the high stone wall. Trash bags are under the sink. Our trash cans are by the boat.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Trash and recycling (if they are getting full) get put out Monday evening for Tuesday pickup. You can dump the small bue bins into the left big blue recycle bin and roll it down.&lt;br /&gt;
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====parking====&lt;br /&gt;
:The driveway should be kept clear. Up back, the left spot is for John and Sue. You can park to the right. Down below it doesn't matter.&lt;br /&gt;
====kitchen====&lt;br /&gt;
:Please don't set any raw meat packaging on the butcher block. We use it for chopping, the right side is the only place we chop garlic and onions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:We don't usually leave wooden utensils or chopping knives in the dishwasher or soaking in the sink&lt;br /&gt;
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:The coffee grinder is set up to grind right into the expresso cofee holder. One press wakes it up, the next start it grinding, the next stops grinding. There is a coffe cone somewhere in the second draw near the fridge and filters in the top right drawer there if you prefer drip. But we usually just heat a little milk in the microwave for 30 sec, grid the beans into the expresso container, tamp them a little then put the cup under the expresso machine.. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The coffee machine turns on with the left button and is ready to brew when all the buttons light. Once it is ready the right button will make about 10 oz of coffee and the button to the left of that will make ~5oz. Usually we heat up the cup with some milk for 30 seconds in the microwave before. When it runs out of water the container can be removed by lifting it straight up from the back.&lt;br /&gt;
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==tasks==&lt;br /&gt;
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===plants/garden===&lt;br /&gt;
:If the house plants look particularly unhappy please give them a drink. For the ferns over the dog house, there is a mister that they love.&lt;br /&gt;
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===dog/cat===&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ulysses(Uli) has some friends who sometimes come to the door and ask him to go out and play in the yard. That's cool. They bring him back.&lt;br /&gt;
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:When you are home the dog door can be open. Uli will go out and lie the porch (even when it is 10 degrees out!) or hang out in the yard and out front and come back in at will. We call him in from the porch and close the dog door at night. He has an led collar which is charging under the cookbook area of the kitchen. Uli is not allowed on any furniture and is discouraged from being in the kitchen while we cook lest he resort to begging. Mabibi is allowed in and out during the day but we try to keep her in once it gets dark. We close the door early on Monday evening and leave it closed Tuesday morning as that is trash day and we want to discourage him from sniffing around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Even though he is free to hang in the yard, Uli still needs 2 walks a day. He has been trained not to &amp;quot;shit where he lives&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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=====food (in the back hallway to the right)=====&lt;br /&gt;
:Uli: twice a day, one scoop dry dogfood and fresh water&lt;br /&gt;
:Mabibi: twice a day, 1/2 can (cover or saran wrap and refrigerate remainder) or a scoop of dry food. She will drink from Uli's water.&lt;br /&gt;
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=====walking Uli=====&lt;br /&gt;
:On the dirt road Uli is usually off leash. On paved streets/sidewalks he can be on a leash. Sometimes he will test a new person by wanting to pull them. A flick of the leash while saying &amp;quot;Don't Pull&amp;quot; should work. If he obsesses on wanting to smelll some dogs butt or something, the hierarchy of discipline commands is &amp;quot;Good Dog, Walk with me&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Uli Stop/Don't Pull&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Uli Sit&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Uli Stay&amp;quot;, and then if he still is obsessing... &amp;quot;Uli No&amp;quot;, and finally &amp;quot;Bad Dog&amp;quot;. If we are paying attention then we see the next dog coming before he does and can keep his attention. Generally, we let him explore/sniff/pee/visit_other_dogs where the sidewalks aren't crowded but once we get to the commercial areas of Center Street we tell him &amp;quot;Uli No Sniffing, No peeing, Walk with me&amp;quot; and have him walk along your right side. Uli loves Jamaica Pond.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Mom medical</title>
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		<updated>2020-03-09T22:09:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* notes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381 GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
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==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
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*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
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==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/9/20 Monday &lt;br /&gt;
*Getting blood transfusion because of hematoma and she's anemic&lt;br /&gt;
*Chung is on board. Doctors are all talking to each other because of new concerns. Feeding tube goes in from outside of her stomach, NG tube gets removed&lt;br /&gt;
*Esophagram showed throat is getting better. Catscan results are she has a hematoma but it should resolve on its own. Pain in stomach also due to constipation and because she's retaining urine. She's getting laxative for constipation. Blood pressure is low, so no walk. Celifarco will have feeding tube put in. She's taking a nap now &lt;br /&gt;
*2:30 They did a catheterization to remove urine. They are pumping in the last of the contrast for the belly cat scan now at 230 pm.    No word yet from doc on esophagram result other than nurse saying tear is smaller.   &lt;br /&gt;
*1:24 The esophagram showed the tear in the esophagus is smaller.   Moms blood pressure is better 110 over 85. Right now they are giving  her 30 ounces of a contrast fluid for 2 pm cat scan due to a pain in her abdomen.   &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30 Mom is ok.    Her blood pressure was low 85 over 40 at 9 am but seems to be rising now 1130am. .  Bed pan action in progress which should make her feel better.  &lt;br /&gt;
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*The nurses are taking great care of her as is the PA named Kate and Dr Chung came in and saw she was retaining too much fluid (hence the bed pan)  No word yet on esophagram as they are watching BP for the moment.  She is in good spirits.  &lt;br /&gt;
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*3/8/20 Mom is alert and having great conversations. She is looking forward to having esophagram test tomorrow and thinks it will be a positive outcome. &lt;br /&gt;
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*3/7/20 Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
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*Coleen: I got here at 9a.m. and see that all the action happens early morning. Mom was being bathed and soon after, moved to the chair. Dr. Zisman, was in and confirmed that the esophagus test Monday will give them an idea of how and if the tear is healing and whether or not they could begin to feed her. Mom said 'that means I can get out Friday' and the doctor said that if she is able to eat as of Monday, she could be released even sooner. Mom is acknowledging the fact that she will need live-in professional help for a while when she returns home. I am going to push for PT walking today. Mom's coloring is good.&lt;br /&gt;
* Giving mom potassium as it was a little low. NG tube going back to suction. Celifarco flushed the tube last night so it is working for Med intake&lt;br /&gt;
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3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
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3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
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3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
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3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
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*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
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*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
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3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==people==&lt;br /&gt;
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*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<updated>2020-03-09T19:57:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* notes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
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==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
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*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
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==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*3/9/20 Monday &lt;br /&gt;
*2:30 They did a catheterization to remove urine.    They are pumping in the last of the contrast for the belly cat scan now at 230 pm.    No word yet from doc on esophagram result other than nurse saying tear is smaller.   &lt;br /&gt;
1:24 The esophagram showed the tear in the esophagus is smaller.   Moms blood pressure is better 110 over 85.    &lt;br /&gt;
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Right now they are giving  her 30 ounces of a contrast fluid for 2 pm cat scan due to a pain in her abdomen.   &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30 Mom is ok.    Her blood pressure was low 85 over 40 at 9 am but seems to be rising now 1130am. .  Bed pan action in progress which should make her feel better.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The nurses are taking great care of her as is the PA named Kate and Dr Chung came in and saw she was retaining too much fluid (hence the bed pan)  No word yet on esophagram as they are watching BP for the moment.  She is in good spirits.  &lt;br /&gt;
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*3/8/20 Mom is alert and having great conversations. She is looking forward to having esophagram test tomorrow and thinks it will be a positive outcome. &lt;br /&gt;
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*3/7/20 Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
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Coleen: I got here at 9a.m. and see that all the action happens early morning. Mom was being bathed and soon after, moved to the chair. Dr. Zisman, was in and confirmed that the esophagus test Monday will give them an idea of how and if the tear is healing and whether or not they could begin to feed her. Mom said 'that means I can get out Friday' and the doctor said that if she is able to eat as of Monday, she could be released even sooner. Mom is acknowledging the fact that she will need live-in professional help for a while when she returns home. I am going to push for PT walking today. Mom's coloring is good.&lt;br /&gt;
* Giving mom potassium as it was a little low. NG tube going back to suction. Celifarco flushed the tube last night so it is working for Med intake&lt;br /&gt;
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3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
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3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
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3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
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3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
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*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
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*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
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3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==people==&lt;br /&gt;
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*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
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==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
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*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
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*3/9/20 Monday &lt;br /&gt;
*2:30 They did a catheterization to remove urine.    They are pumping in the last of the contrast for the belly cat scan now at 230 pm.    No word yet from doc on esophagram result other than nurse saying tear is smaller.   &lt;br /&gt;
1:24 The esophagram showed the tear in the esophagus is smaller.   Moms blood pressure is better 110 over 85.    &lt;br /&gt;
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Right now they are giving  her 30 ounces of a contrast fluid for 2 pm cat scan due to a pain in her abdomen.   &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30 Mom is ok.    Her blood pressure was low 85 over 40 at 9 am but seems to be rising now 1130am. .  Bed pan action in progress which should make her feel better.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The nurses are taking great care of her as is the PA named Kate and Dr Chung came in and saw she was retaining too much fluid (hence the bed pan)  No word yet on esophagram as they are watching BP for the moment.  She is in good spirits.  &lt;br /&gt;
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*3/7/20 Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
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Coleen: I got here at 9a.m. and see that all the action happens early morning. Mom was being bathed and soon after, moved to the chair. Dr. Zisman, was in and confirmed that the esophagus test Monday will give them an idea of how and if the tear is healing and whether or not they could begin to feed her. Mom said 'that means I can get out Friday' and the doctor said that if she is able to eat as of Monday, she could be released even sooner. Mom is acknowledging the fact that she will need live-in professional help for a while when she returns home. I am going to push for PT walking today. Mom's coloring is good.&lt;br /&gt;
* Giving mom potassium as it was a little low. NG tube going back to suction. Celifarco flushed the tube last night so it is working for Med intake&lt;br /&gt;
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3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
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3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
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3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
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3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
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*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
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*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
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3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* notes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
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*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
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==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*3/9/20 Monday &lt;br /&gt;
*2:30 They did a catheterization to remove urine.    They are pumping in the last of the contrast for the belly cat scan now at 230 pm.    No word yet from doc on esophagram result other than nurse saying tear is smaller.   &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30 Mom is ok.    Her blood pressure was low 85 over 40 at 9 am but seems to be rising now 1130am. .  Bed pan action in progress which should make her feel better.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The nurses are taking great care of her as is the PA named Kate and Dr Chung came in and saw she was retaining too much fluid (hence the bed pan)  No word yet on esophagram as they are watching BP for the moment.  She is in good spirits.  &lt;br /&gt;
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*3/7/20 Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
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Coleen: I got here at 9a.m. and see that all the action happens early morning. Mom was being bathed and soon after, moved to the chair. Dr. Zisman, was in and confirmed that the esophagus test Monday will give them an idea of how and if the tear is healing and whether or not they could begin to feed her. Mom said 'that means I can get out Friday' and the doctor said that if she is able to eat as of Monday, she could be released even sooner. Mom is acknowledging the fact that she will need live-in professional help for a while when she returns home. I am going to push for PT walking today. Mom's coloring is good.&lt;br /&gt;
* Giving mom potassium as it was a little low. NG tube going back to suction. Celifarco flushed the tube last night so it is working for Med intake&lt;br /&gt;
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3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
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3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
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3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
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3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
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*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
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*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
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3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* notes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
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==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
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*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
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==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*3/9/20&lt;br /&gt;
*2:30 They did a catheterization to remove urine.    They are pumping in the last of the contrast for the belly cat scan now at 230 pm.    No word yet from doc on esophagram result other than nurse saying tear is smaller.   &lt;br /&gt;
*3/7/20 Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
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Coleen: I got here at 9a.m. and see that all the action happens early morning. Mom was being bathed and soon after, moved to the chair. Dr. Zisman, was in and confirmed that the esophagus test Monday will give them an idea of how and if the tear is healing and whether or not they could begin to feed her. Mom said 'that means I can get out Friday' and the doctor said that if she is able to eat as of Monday, she could be released even sooner. Mom is acknowledging the fact that she will need live-in professional help for a while when she returns home. I am going to push for PT walking today. Mom's coloring is good.&lt;br /&gt;
* Giving mom potassium as it was a little low. NG tube going back to suction. Celifarco flushed the tube last night so it is working for Med intake&lt;br /&gt;
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3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
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3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
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3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
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3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
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*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
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*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
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3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==people==&lt;br /&gt;
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*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
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		<updated>2020-03-09T19:48:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* notes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
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==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
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*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
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==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*3/9/20&lt;br /&gt;
*3/7/20 Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
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Coleen: I got here at 9a.m. and see that all the action happens early morning. Mom was being bathed and soon after, moved to the chair. Dr. Zisman, was in and confirmed that the esophagus test Monday will give them an idea of how and if the tear is healing and whether or not they could begin to feed her. Mom said 'that means I can get out Friday' and the doctor said that if she is able to eat as of Monday, she could be released even sooner. Mom is acknowledging the fact that she will need live-in professional help for a while when she returns home. I am going to push for PT walking today. Mom's coloring is good.&lt;br /&gt;
* Giving mom potassium as it was a little low. NG tube going back to suction. Celifarco flushed the tube last night so it is working for Med intake&lt;br /&gt;
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3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
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3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
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3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
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3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
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*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
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*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
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3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<updated>2020-03-07T23:10:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* notes */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
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==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*3/7/20 Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Coleen: I got here at 9a.m. and see that all the action happens early morning. Mom was being bathed and soon after, moved to the chair. Dr. Zisman, was in and confirmed that the esophagus test Monday will give them an idea of how and if the tear is healing and whether or not they could begin to feed her. Mom said 'that means I can get out Friday' and the doctor said that if she is able to eat as of Monday, she could be released even sooner. Mom is acknowledging the fact that she will need live-in professional help for a while when she returns home. I am going to push for PT walking today. Mom's coloring is good.&lt;br /&gt;
* Giving mom potassium as it was a little low. NG tube going back to suction. Celifarco flushed the tube last night so it is working for Med intake&lt;br /&gt;
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3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
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3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
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3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
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3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
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*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
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3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
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== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==people==&lt;br /&gt;
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*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
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*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
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==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*3/7/20 Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Coleen: I got here at 9a.m. and see that all the action happens early morning. Mom was being bathed and soon after, moved to the chair. Dr. Zisman, was in and confirmed that the esophagus test Monday will give them an idea of how and if the tear is healing and whether or not they could begin to feed her. Mom said 'that means I can get out Friday' and the doctor said that if she is able to eat as of Monday, she could be released even sooner. Mom is acknowledging the fact that she will need live-in professional help for a while when she returns home. I am going to push for PT walking today. Mom's coloring is good.&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
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3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
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3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
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3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
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3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* discharge planning */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* questions */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS ALBANY LLC 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/7/20&lt;br /&gt;
*megan PT will help mom pick out walker and then it will be there when it arrives?  &lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<updated>2020-03-07T18:24:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* discharge planning */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*WALKERS: will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
CVS ALBANY LLC 930 MONTAUK HWY &lt;br /&gt;
COPIAGUE (631) 842-5381&lt;br /&gt;
GENOVESE DRUG STORES INC  901 MERRICK RD This means the supplier always accepts assignment for the category, which means they accept the Medicare-approved amount as payment in full for all claims for the category.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<updated>2020-03-06T19:37:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* discharge planning */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*The walker will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  5years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*when we left we had yet to see Dr cilefargo. The nurses don't use the NG nose tube 4 meds and it is kinked so it is not even working to do decompression. He has the power to take the damn thing out. Check with Stephanie the nurse, if none of us are there she will have talked to him. &lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<updated>2020-03-06T17:48:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* notes */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*The walker will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*1pm Endocrinologist in, blood sugar 155, lowest yet, Hemoglobin A1c was 4.7 (excellent), receiving NPH insulin 14 units twice a day, most likely will not need insulin once off the steroid and the TPN feeding (glucose in TPN reduced yesterday) .&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Mom medical</title>
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		<updated>2020-03-06T17:38:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* discharge planning */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another. We received this card: Privatus, Client Services Manager Carolyn Dubicki Eipel, 516 491-5196.&lt;br /&gt;
*Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*The walker will be paid for by Medicare B, one every  years. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
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		<updated>2020-03-06T17:27:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* people */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another.&lt;br /&gt;
Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*The walker will be paid for by insurance. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.  &lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Patient Care Attendants Anica, Ryan, Megan,  &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU Nurses Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin, Stephanie &lt;br /&gt;
*MICU NP  Latoya  &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
*Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, primary care, associate of Tavac, Zisman examined Jean on  3/5 and checke din on her 3/6&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Dimeo - cardiac thoracic surgeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is NP of Kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
Nadia Stokum, Nurse Case Manager for Discharge Planning&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<updated>2020-03-06T17:20:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==discharge planning==&lt;br /&gt;
*Nadia, Nurse Discharge Planner talked to Jean about Private Hire around the clock care until she is strong enough to be alone. She was given a list as they cannot recommend one over another.&lt;br /&gt;
Catholic Homecare is connected with St Francis. Medicare B will pay for Nurses and Home Health Aids from, United Health Insurance will pick up copays.&lt;br /&gt;
*The walker will be paid for by insurance. Jean will receive the script when she leaves. Medicare only offers two walker models and the PT will help pick the best one.  &lt;br /&gt;
==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Dr Lopez Infectious Disease Doctor was in, antibiotics continue, Chief of Pulmonology was in and taught Jean to use the inspiration exerciser which she was not able to use correctly, long sustained breath with an adequate seal made by lips but he was not concerned as he determined that it was not an adequate measure of her breathing status, chaplain was in and said that she will be away next week but to call for Pastoral Care ext 6720 or 6459 (Lead)&lt;br /&gt;
*Discharge Planner was in, &lt;br /&gt;
*11:30am walked around&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung also said he would be fine if Dr Celifarco decided to remove the NG (nose) tube since she was only getting one med through it anyway and mom's blood pressure was 127/71. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung came in, agreed the swelling in mom's feet was better with the compression socks so he stopped the Lasix (hooray, made mom incontinent and only given because she asked for it, also caused the staff to stop letting her walk) &lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Alis, Min- nurse - &lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin MICU nurses&lt;br /&gt;
*Latoya MICU NP &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, prinary care, associate of Tayvc, Zisman examined Jean 3/5&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr dimeo - cardiac thorasic sugeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is np of kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
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		<updated>2020-03-06T15:17:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* notes */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
*Is there a team of discharge planners? Case manager, has not seen her ywt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*3/6/20 Friday&lt;br /&gt;
*xray showed NG tube kinked, can’t be used for one blood pressure meds and the cholesterol med, others are by injection or IV.&lt;br /&gt;
*feet no longer swollen, no shortness of breath,&lt;br /&gt;
Dr Chung ordered 3 days of lasix to address Jean’s concern over her feet (and misconception that her wt had gone up to “160” sounds like 116) but this has caused her to have decreased mobility as she can’t control the increased flow of urine (lasix doing what it does)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Alis, Min- nurse - &lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin MICU nurses&lt;br /&gt;
*Latoya MICU NP &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, prinary care, associate of Tayvc, Zisman examined Jean 3/5&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr dimeo - cardiac thorasic sugeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is np of kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<updated>2020-03-05T19:00:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* people */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
*Is there a team of discharge planners? Case manager, has not seen her ywt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Alis, Min- nurse - &lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin MICU nurses&lt;br /&gt;
*Latoya MICU NP &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor, 2nd in command to Dr Chung&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, prinary care, associate of Tayvc, Zisman examined Jean 3/5&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr dimeo - cardiac thorasic sugeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is np of kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Peri: /* questions */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==questions==&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*What was learned from the CT scan?, ANS: they decided to let her throat heal on its own&lt;br /&gt;
*Is there a team of discharge planners? Case manager, has not seen her ywt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==notes==&lt;br /&gt;
3/5/20 Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
12:20 xray done&lt;br /&gt;
*12 noon Latoya NP in, Dr Celifarco ordered X-ray to check on nasogastric tube placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*10:30Dr Chung in, spoke to Dr Celifarco, cancelled the radiology consult for the feeding tube, prefers, after barium swallow on Monday to assure healing and no leak, to start taking food by mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
Wayne, PT walked, no shortness of breath.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez, Infectious Disease, continue antibiotic to prevent infection until healing confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
*8:30am Dr Celifarco in, said that radiologist will be in today to discuss insertion of feeding tube near navel which would allow the nasal tube to come out. &lt;br /&gt;
Also that next Monday a repeat barium swallow to assess the healing in the esophageal neck area.&lt;br /&gt;
Nurse Caitlin explained the feeding tube. (see notes)&lt;br /&gt;
*6:30 Dr Zisman, Primary Care provider (associate of Taybac) was in evaluate Jean&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
3/4/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*6pm Dr Celifarco was in to check the NG tube that the nurses are finding finicky. He pulled back the tube put saline through a now smaller more comfortable tube (I don’t know when he changed it) that requires the nurses to use a little more force.&lt;br /&gt;
*3:20 1st walk today&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa again tried to Clear the feeding tube, after the tech came in to adjust it but it didn't work. She says the same thing happened last night they did a scan that also was worthless, without some kind of dye it is too small to see. So no, it is not working for meds and is too small to ever be used for food&lt;br /&gt;
*got a coverage insulin of 4 at 1:30&lt;br /&gt;
*12:45 blood sugar 311&lt;br /&gt;
*another CATscan, to find where the NG tube is, happened&lt;br /&gt;
*nutritionist explained that one reason to look forward to moving from the PICC to feeding tube is that the gut will atrophy if food is coming only from the blood&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Chung downplayed the ng tube problems, says you can just jiggle it to another place so it works but defers to Dr Celifarco on what should happen with it. Suggested that things were stable and that mom might be ready for a regular hospital room. He has been in touch with Dr Serpe. Mom and Dr Chung had a conversation comparing how she felt after walking to the mailbox before the surgery to how she felt walking around the hospital yesterday. Mom said she still felt weak but that now walking now she doesn't have that feeling of racing beating heart as much.&lt;br /&gt;
*8am looking good, Dr Celifarco was in and will get back to the nurses about changes in the nasogastric tube that will allow her to get feedings through it, a better level of nutrition than the TPN she gets through the PICC line.&lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa day nurse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/3/20 tues&lt;br /&gt;
*9:45 sharp pain in left lower belly, pain when pressed.. May be gas. Was to receive mylanta through NG tube and found that there was resistance, Latoya Nurse Practitioner moved the tube but still wasn’t patent, ordered bedside X-ray to check on placement.&lt;br /&gt;
*Received Lovenox injection and they hung new TPN bag.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;In the morning have the nurse page to request a chaplain visit or call ext:6459 there is a card on the window sill.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;Chaplain came, we prayed. Mom asked for a miraculous medal and maybe a rosary.&lt;br /&gt;
*We called Karen to take in the papers and packages&lt;br /&gt;
*1:30 pm sugar is 323, bp 136/94 temp99, got 'coverage'4', notified endocrinologist&lt;br /&gt;
*physical therapist took her for a walk around the floor. Said she needs to walk and do her exercises every day. She is out of breath. Then she lifted her leg bending at the knee 20x and lifting her knee up 15x. You cannot go home if you cannot walk.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez stopped in. &lt;br /&gt;
*the NG nose tube is also used as a way to get mom meds. After giving meds the close off the tube for a while so the meds stay down. &lt;br /&gt;
*mom is getting lovrinox injections as a Cumadin replacement&lt;br /&gt;
*Mary the respiratory therapist stopped by with a session of nebulizer. Mom got a new mask with cool moist air to lower her problems with mucus. &lt;br /&gt;
*Mom is tired probably partly from the steroid she is taking and the (somehow connected) rise in her blood sugar level. Dr Chung spoke of bringing in an endocrinologist to consult.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr tavak still a no show. Nurse is calling again&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik was here with Dr Chung (who is still quarterbacking) The consensus on the throat is to leave it to heal on its own for 2 weeks. Feeding will be from PICC and they might experiment having the nose tube be used for some of her meds like Cumadin and blood pressure meds. It does not seem to be worth it in their view to put in a stomach feeding tube for the two weeks. '''She will likely have to remain in the hospital for two more weeks'''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celifarco is consulting w another GI doc kaushik whose np Palmieri says they think endoscopic clip install is the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
3/2/20 mon&lt;br /&gt;
*At 7:30pm ENT Dr Wodlin came to say that the injection to treat the “paralysis” is not needed now but may be before she starts ingesting food.An Esophogeal surgeon came in and weighed in saying “less is more” he would not opt for the drain or the incision to clip the tear The clip could close in fluid that could then lead to infection. An image of the area may look very different in a week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*TPN nourishment through the PICC line new bag started at 9:30pm Jean was restless and pulled off the mittens. &lt;br /&gt;
* At 6:30pm Jean had a CT scan of her throat and chest to get more information (ie how deep is the tear)&lt;br /&gt;
*In the afternoon Dr Celifarco on the other hand, sees a collection junk in the esophagus wound and is recommending a drain. He's got a guy coming to look that and also evaluate whether they could non-surgically reach in and sew up the tear.  He thinks drain first, feeding tube second. He agreed that a feeding tube entering the belly,done by a radiologist, so that it wouldn’t have to go through her esophagus would better allow the throat to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
*After the barium X-ray Dr dimeo came and said the tear was pretty high up near the vocal chords. Out of his territory. Recommending  and consulting w general surgeon. Thinks surgery to put in neck drain is unnecessary now, use antibiotics instead. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez the Infectious Disease specialist started antibiotics for esophagus wound, to prevent infection as there is no sign of infection (elevated white cells)&lt;br /&gt;
*So the trauma sustained   that is keeping her from eating is both a partial paralysis and a tear of her esophagus. She has a PICC line (not in her chest but in her upper arm) and an NG tube. The NG tube is being used for medications. She is having a barium type swallow esophogiagram now with some water based substance to determine where the tear is located. result: long tear left external, high up but not sure how deep. The radiologist suggested that it might need to be repaired surgically, hope not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*working on getting a primary care physician on board to coordinate and have the big picture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3/1/20 sun&lt;br /&gt;
*The ENT doc was just here, he says that her vocal cord is still paralyzed but that he has to wait to hear from her doc about where the tear is located. If it is along the shared wall with the wind pipe it is harder to take care of the shot (which usually is an instant cure for vocal paralysis, but if it is on the exterior wall of esophagus, much less complicated. He will consult with the doc looking at her esophagus after he knows the deal and work with him.&lt;br /&gt;
*The nurse Min said that all of the nutrients are being provided through an I.V. The 'feeding tube' is exclusively for medication. &lt;br /&gt;
*GI guy was here this morning and left note saying that an ENT person will come tomorrow to take a look at the current state of mom's esophagus tear.&lt;br /&gt;
2/29/20 Sat&lt;br /&gt;
*Feeding tube can't be used for 24 -36 hrs. Today a PIC line will be put in so she can get iv nourishment with protein carbs and fat. However her INR number is high so there is a hold on that.&lt;br /&gt;
*mom still not getting food&lt;br /&gt;
*The injection for the vocal cord was not done, the feeding tube was placed last night. The tube is a nasogastric (NG) tube and as of 10am there was no order to start feedings&lt;br /&gt;
2/28/20 Fri&lt;br /&gt;
*ENT doctor/- Dr Saul Wodlin examined mom's throat with a small scope and told me that the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed. Stated this is the reason she cannot swallow or talk. The solution is to give mom an injection and this will very quickly repair the problem. The main issue is timing. This was just diagnosed , the OR is booked up. He is pushing very hard with everyone at the hospital to do this ASAP. If this can be done and if successful ( the doc is very confident) the feeding tube will be unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;
2/26/20 Wed&lt;br /&gt;
*the main issue remains the throat trauma. Not able to ingest any liquids or food. The steroid that started 2/25@ 11:00am has been given regularly and the hope is that this can greatly aid in the throat healing. By later this afternoon doctor will evaluate the potential insertion of a feeding tube. They hope to avoid this for the potential strain on the throat could outweigh the nutritional advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
2/25/20 Tues&lt;br /&gt;
*Much less pain and discomfort today. Last night her doctor said one lung was not functioning - he used an endoscope to diagnose the problem. Detected a large amount of mucus around the lung and was able to suction it out. Started a new medication to help with breathing. &lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Chung checked in, and is concerned about mom's throat, and the fact that she has not been able to drink or eat anything. Says she will remain in the ICU until her problem is resolved.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==people==&lt;br /&gt;
* Danielle - ENT nurse -&lt;br /&gt;
* Alis, Min- nurse - &lt;br /&gt;
*Melissa, Michelle, Steph, Caitlin MICU nurses&lt;br /&gt;
*Latoya MICU NP &lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Chung - heart surgeon - installed the mitral valve clip &lt;br /&gt;
Novlet Cardiology NP&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Saul Wodlin - ENT doctor - 2/28 the reason she cannot swallow or talk:the left side of her vocal cord is paralyzed&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr Celifarco  - GI doctor&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr tavak - primary care&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Zisman, prinary care, examined 3/5&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Lopez - infectious disease doc&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr dimeo - cardiac thorasic sugeon&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr Kaushik director of Gastroenterology, 515-590-3700 https://ligastroendo.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Roberta Palmieri is np of kaushik&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Talk:Mom medical | talk page for personal observations]]==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Peri</name></author>
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